Smacking - sometimes it's just hard not to do!

[EgliHonda]

Theft of my chips was the final straw

Too right. Taking hot chips off a man's plate uninvited should be a capital offense...

Think I would have snapped too, well done that manager though, didn't expect to hear him enforcing standards like that...

[Tink]

In at the local city council offices today I witnessed 2 toddlers helping themselves to pamphlets and running around with them. When one of the staff members tried nicely to get them back the youngest threw a screaming hissy and held them behind her back (all of about 2 years old). The (older) woman reached around saying something like "how about I take these and you can have this one" and the little missy open hand smacked the woman across the face. All of this with 2 adults who were with them doing nothing.

The elderly man with them mumbled something about "sorry" but not another word was said. As they walked past me apparently happy as larry I said "I'd have been disgusted if either of my children had just done that". Well, I got a rant over how it was all the government's fault and how they'd end up in the shit it they dealt with the kid; the woman then butted in and told me to "stay out of it". (Which I know I should probably have done, but it incensed me that the little brat could just do that and neither the mother or grandfather - which is what the adults appeared to be to these girls- did a thing).

Apparently they'd be in there for some time before I went in, being general little pains in the arse completely unchecked. Then to top it off with slapping a staff member across the face! The reaction on all the other people in the building was shocked, but not one person said a thing. Except me cos I just couldn't help myself. Aaaaarrrrrggggghh! And we wonder why when they get to school they're already uncontrollable. Hmmmm. Go figure.

Rant over!

I would have backed you up there PB... ! Thats just intolerable behaviour, and taking that child aside screaming is better than letting her get away with what she/he did.

[ghost]

I would have voiced my disgust too.

Simple answer:

The parents should be held accountable; charged with assulting a staff member and also creating a public disturbance.

I suspect that their next visit would have been more peaceful.

So the Parents, who are not allowed to disipline their two year old in the old fashioned manner, that actually gets the attention of a two year old, are to be held legally accountable for the actions of the said two year old? (that they arent allowed to dicipline) ( did I mention that all ready)

or maybe they should have "reasoned with them"....

Mmm..

Who would have thought it would have come to this....

[Genie]

Oh I hear that... Some parents think shops are free babysitting services, while their little 'darlings' tear around breaking toys and rupturing eardrums. Unfortunately the Whorehouse suffers the brunt of this form of trash...

second that....my children range from 5 up to 9 and i'm only now just beginning to let them look at stuff by themselves. have seen ones as young as 1 left while their mothers cruise clothing racks!!!!

Personal responsiblity should be taught to all while they are young!

[Fatjim]

If you think like that, all you are ever going to teach is intolerance.

The problem is "control", and what we believe our rights extend to with regard that.

Who, at any time, has the right to impose THEIR idea of "control" upon YOU?

No one does? Good! So why teach children that THEY can when they grow up?

When you use coercion to force children to DO something, you reinforce the idea that "normal adults may use coercion as a valid tool", when the real truth is, this is never going to be acceptable.

Furthermore, 90% of the time, adults use coercion simply for the reason, that the other person is interfering with their feelings. The message sent is, "my feelings are paramount, and your feelings are irrelevant."

Think about it. You can't force anyone to do anything. Get over it.

Steve

What crack have you been smoking?

[Dave Lobster]

Personal responsiblity should be taught to all while they are young!

Isn't personal responsibility illegal now?

(ACC...)

[The Pastor]

Im not the best at it, but my sister can growl a kid till they cry.

no need to smack them if you know how to handle kids.

tho once they get a bit older they get the i dont care attitude, thats when you need to lay the beat down.

[EJK]

control - respect - not in the same category at all.

If you gain people's respect, will they not follow you? Authority is control, ain't it?

[wbks]

If you gain people's respect, will they not follow you? Authority is control, ain't it?

Listen to HIM!

[ManDownUnder]

Listen to HIM!

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[ManDownUnder]

If you gain people's respect, will they not follow you?

Not in my book.

Respect your enemy is agood rule to live by - that don't mean change sides and join them

[MSTRS:Me]

What crack have you been smoking?

I think it's something they put in the ice cream...

[jimmy 2006]

I know quite a few parents that do smack their children - and I say "good for them"

Didn't do me any harm, and neither did my kids any harm. At least they learnt right from wrong and also learnt to respect people and things.

Good on ya PrincessBandit

God that is backwards. thinking like this is why this country is going to the dogs.
the only way to stop child abuse is to break the cycle. as parents we have to be mature enough to not need to resort to violence when it comes to discipline.

In this situation it would have been easy to make the parents accountable for the kids actions instead of stepping in to try and deal with the kids yourself.
as has been said earlier. Discipline the parents telling them that this is unacceptable and you must leave the store now.

[jimmy 2006]

So the Parents, who are not allowed to disipline their two year old in the old fashioned manner, that actually gets the attention of a two year old, are to be held legally accountable for the actions of the said two year old? (that they arent allowed to dicipline) ( did I mention that all ready)

or maybe they should have "reasoned with them"....

Mmm..

Who would have thought it would have come to this....

yea, they should have had the crap beaten out of them until they couldn't talk, cry or walk anymore.......... that would solve it ah?

[devnull]

God that is backwards. thinking like this is why this country is going to the dogs.
the only way to stop child abuse is to break the cycle. as parents we have to be mature enough to not need to resort to violence when it comes to discipline.

In this situation it would have been easy to make the parents accountable for the kids actions instead of stepping in to try and deal with the kids yourself.
as has been said earlier. Discipline the parents telling them that this is unacceptable and you must leave the store now.

And with that the feeble minded kaftan wearers emerge...

I'm a parent.
I have very well behaved children.

They know that rules are enforced.
A smack may be the punishment.

It is MY responsibility to teach them acceptable behaviour, and enforce it. When they become adults, if they haven't learned acceptable behaviour by then, the police will enforce it.

The anti-smacking religion is a social engineering experiment that has failed overseas and is devoid of factual research.

It did achieve 1 thing - a nearly 700% increase in youth crime in Sweden...