Hampton Downs: is there an issue?

**Reckless** · 5th December 2009, 00:26

Originally Posted by carver

cause the guy behind him gave him no racing room

Trouble is that happens a lot!

**carver** · 5th December 2009, 06:02

Originally Posted by Reckless

Trouble is that happens a lot!

I know, and if i was driving, i would make him crash too

**RT527** · 5th December 2009, 06:36

Originally Posted by Quasievil

Because the track has design floors in it, that being just one of them.

As the racing evolves more of them will come out, but having that end wall there is nothing but a fuck up and the track should be closed until they sort it out.

that Driver is lucky he isnt DEAD

Considering that the Porsche driver was not at fault and he clearly tried his hardest to avoid the accident from occurring the Mini driver is lucky but the stupid bugger never had the race line through there and all but forced Bryce from the track at which point the Porsche driver saw the wall coming up and tried to get back on the track to avoid it giving the mini a pit manouver that our police force are incapable of doing due to legislation....but if they ever introduce it ...hes my obvious choice for their trainer.
And yes both drivers were ok, but the mini driver was transported as a status 3 to waikato hospital for observation.

**RT527** · 5th December 2009, 06:44

Originally Posted by carver

cause the guy behind him gave him no racing room

what a crock of shit he didnt have to give him racing room, the white Porsche was cleared by the accident investigator at the track on the day, and ladies and gentleman this is racing you could invent the worlds safest track with air fence here and air fence there and every other conceivable safety measure and someone would still find some way of putting their car into some immovable object at speed or hit another car at speed.....there is not much wrong with the track but any suggestions will be looked at by the owners seriously they have put a lot into the track personally and they do want it to be the best for you guys to race round, so let them know if you have a prob I`m sure they will respond at some stage, they are very busy gentleman at the moment.

**Taz** · 5th December 2009, 09:10

The guy in the mini got what he deserved for driving stupidly IMO.

**slowpoke** · 6th December 2009, 15:29

Originally Posted by Anthrax

The guy in the mini got what he deserved for driving stupidly IMO.

So for a minor racing incident the guys car is totalled and he's in hospital......the "punishment" isn't in proportion to the incident.

Which is kinda the point of Frosty's thread I think. You shouldn't pay a huge price for a minor transgression, be it your own or someone elses. You should be able to make a reasonable mistake and not have your life, or others lives put at risk. Sure, incidents are always going to happen but where possible the effects should be mitigated not exacerbated. Walls on the outside of corners, in this case a semi-blind corner thanks to the crest, really aren't super smart thinkin'.........but I can't see too much being done about it at this late stage in construction.

It's still an interesting, challenging track that NZ badly needs though.

**Blackflagged** · 6th December 2009, 16:09

These are the guys that should have sponsored , the top of the hill at Puke!
http://www.titanium.com/titanium/orthopedic.cfm

**davebullet** · 6th December 2009, 17:10

I saw it (on the news) and it looked bloody horrendous! Looked like the concrete wall started "end on". What about a 45 degree or bevel start to the wall? Should not be left like that or that's a fatality in waiting.

**Devil** · 7th December 2009, 08:15

Originally Posted by davebullet

I saw it (on the news) and it looked bloody horrendous! Looked like the concrete wall started "end on". What about a 45 degree or bevel start to the wall? Should not be left like that or that's a fatality in waiting.

It is a 45 degree or so corner. You just cant see it from that video...

**Shaun** · 7th December 2009, 09:23

Just go and the RIDE the track your selves, and make up your own minds.

Craig Shirrif and myself, think it is bloody brilliant

**scrivy** · 7th December 2009, 11:24

Originally Posted by Shaun

Just go and the RIDE the track your selves, and make up your own minds.

Craig Shirrif and myself, think it is bloody brilliant

CRAIG WHO???????

**RT527** · 7th December 2009, 20:05

Originally Posted by slowpoke

So for a minor racing incident the guys car is totalled and he's in hospital......the "punishment" isn't in proportion to the incident.

Which is kinda the point of Frosty's thread I think. You shouldn't pay a huge price for a minor transgression, be it your own or someone elses. You should be able to make a reasonable mistake and not have your life, or others lives put at risk. Sure, incidents are always going to happen but where possible the effects should be mitigated not exacerbated. Walls on the outside of corners, in this case a semi-blind corner thanks to the crest, really aren't super smart thinkin'.........but I can't see too much being done about it at this late stage in construction.

It's still an interesting, challenging track that NZ badly needs though.

As I said purely precautionary that he went to hospital.
to get the facts more correct, the mini understeered coming around the corner and ran wide so the Porsche took the chance to get passed him when the mini corrected he felt that he still had the line and drove into the side of the porsche....he was in the wrong and paid for it with a racing mistake which if it had of happened on any other track in nz would have seen both cars crash anyway.

I worked the Thunder in the park on the weekend and despite the fact that a whole heap of drivers couldnt tell what colour a red flag was it wasnt too bad a day with some very aggressive racing the resulted in very little crashs although we had a couple of big ones on the sunday well 1 to be exact, car on roof , driver was ok tho.

I had some fun driving Fire 1 which is one of the chase vehicles, and had a blast (read first time doing it) I learnt a whole heap and cant wait to have another go.
I`m going to be working fire/rescue at hampton this sunday so will tell what i think next week.

**"D" FZ1** · 7th December 2009, 20:25

Originally Posted by Shaun

Just go and the RIDE the track your selves, and make up your own minds.

Craig Shirrif and myself, think it is bloody brilliant

EXACTLY. We had a YAMAHA Ride Day at the AWESOME new HAMPTON DOWNS facility on Saturday Afternoon. I did about 20 laps on my FZ1-N and loved it (Apart from the normal F###TARDS that you get at these events that think they are Super Bike Riders)

The Track is COOL and it is going to be an AWESOME Facility once it is finished. A Big Congratulations to Tony and the team for building this AWESOME Facility that we so desperately need.

**I14** · 7th December 2009, 22:11

I agree with Glenn the pit entrance at the bottom of the hill would be way safer. Where it is is damn near the fastest part of the course. On my trackday there I was flat out coming up the hill when suddenly I realised we must've been session over and the guys in front were pulling into pitlane. So like a turkey I braked real hard not to overshoot and turned off about halfway along the exit path. I then realised that it was bloody stupid as if someone was coming up fast on the racing line then he would've taken me out. This sort of thing wouldn't happen in a race but the point is why have the exit at the fastest spot?
BTW had a blast, magic track, great grip. Loved it..