Hampton Downs: is there an issue?

[BoristheBiter]

Nope. It started with the rider's speed.

It started with him getting on the bike, if he didn't do that he wouldn't have crashed.

[MSTRS:Me]

I was being flippant...
For the rider, there are a number of things that lead to the crash. None on their own necessarily being significant problems. But in the particular combination that day, at that spot...perhaps a crash was inevitable.
The easiest thing of all to change, is the speed at that point.
Death's chicane sounds like a good idea.
Protecting the wall/ensuring it has no projections is also a must.

[BoristheBiter]

I was being flippant...
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I had got that and so was I.

[Mort]

Death's chicane sounds like a good idea.

*cough* actually it was my idea first

[Robert Taylor]

Well i would say the hump as that would have started it all off.

It was a combination of factors, I think I just may have a lot more info on this than you realise

[BoristheBiter]

It was a combination of factors, I think I just may have a lot more info on this than you realise

yes i guess you proberly do but not as much as you think.

[woodyracer]

*cough* actually it was my idea first

ahahahaa true that

[gixerracer]

It was a combination of factors, I think I just may have a lot more info on this than you realise

shut up robert your a dick

[FROSTY:Me]

Actually what is funny (ironic not ha ha) is that in 2 other sports I'm involved in we are discussing exactly this senario. Its about risk management. Lots of factors involved that if the stars alighn right and the combination of factors comes up somebody dies. Remove any one or more of the factors and the person has a bit of a fright or an expensive day but is still alive preferably unhurt and their gear/vehicle undamaged
SO what can be done in the real world to reduce the risk in THIS senario??
NOT ride ??--clearly not an option anyonereally wants to concider.

Why is this so important? why worry??
Theres a round of the AMCC club series coming up pretty soon. Will COC accept the track without risk reduction strategies in place??
Last round of the nationals is gonna be early next year. Will it be at HD or will AMCC concider the risk of injury too great?
If I was a track day organiser I'd be very nervous about HD for fear of a repeat.
So this is an opertunity for KB to actually do some good.

[codgyoleracer]

shut up robert your a dick

You could at least have the manners to say he's a big dick....... :-)

[codgyoleracer]

Actually what is funny (ironic not ha ha) is that in 2 other sports I'm involved in we are discussing exactly this senario. Its about risk management. Lots of factors involved that if the stars alighn right and the combination of factors comes up somebody dies. Remove any one or more of the factors and the person has a bit of a fright or an expensive day but is still alive preferably unhurt and their gear/vehicle undamaged
SO what can be done in the real world to reduce the risk in THIS senario??
NOT ride ??--clearly not an option anyonereally wants to concider.

Why is this so important? why worry??
Theres a round of the AMCC club series coming up pretty soon. Will COC accept the track without risk reduction strategies in place??
Last round of the nationals is gonna be early next year. Will it be at HD or will AMCC concider the risk of injury too great?
If I was a track day organiser I'd be very nervous about HD for fear of a repeat.
So this is an opertunity for KB to actually do some good.

A 75km long piece of straight race track with no corners whatsoever should eliminate all corner related incidents....... , boredom & going to sleep at the bars at 300kph could be a slight issue though.

[BoristheBiter]

A 75km long piece of straight race track with no corners whatsoever should eliminate all corner related incidents....... , boredom & going to sleep at the bars at 300kph could be a slight issue though.

Street race in the US of A??

[Blackflagged]

Try make it straighter from the Sweeper past the wall to start finish ,would decrease injury risk, without sucking to much fun out of things.

[Robert Taylor]

Actually what is funny (ironic not ha ha) is that in 2 other sports I'm involved in we are discussing exactly this senario. Its about risk management. Lots of factors involved that if the stars alighn right and the combination of factors comes up somebody dies. Remove any one or more of the factors and the person has a bit of a fright or an expensive day but is still alive preferably unhurt and their gear/vehicle undamaged
SO what can be done in the real world to reduce the risk in THIS senario??
NOT ride ??--clearly not an option anyonereally wants to concider.

Why is this so important? why worry??
Theres a round of the AMCC club series coming up pretty soon. Will COC accept the track without risk reduction strategies in place??
Last round of the nationals is gonna be early next year. Will it be at HD or will AMCC concider the risk of injury too great?
If I was a track day organiser I'd be very nervous about HD for fear of a repeat.
So this is an opertunity for KB to actually do some good.

Risk management

1) Track, move the wall / air fences etc as neccessary. Remove the lip.

2) Ensure that machines being ridden are set up in a safe manner that will not cause instability or if they get out of shape they are responsive enough to regain some stability. Currently this is to a major degree self policing but it scares me how many machines are badly set up with external adjustments only and that often raises the possibility of getting into grief. What also has to be considered is the safety of other riders in your immediate vicinity.

More education needed for riders and much more setup knowledge at dealer level. How could anyone argue with that?

This is more than about the track itself

[Robert Taylor]

You could at least have the manners to say he's a big dick....... :-)

At least all the girls afford me that courtesy! Luckily Craigs only association with me is twiddling with his suspenders!