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    Quote Originally Posted by woodyracer View Post
    ahahhaha 1:30 lap around manfeild on a streetstock bike is decent pace then? i think sooo....i do find it boring, ive ridden taupo,puke,hampton, manfeild alot... i dont like it. Niether to do other people, mostly because its used to much.

    Hampton is world class, i know you've traveled the world and been on every track, but lets just not bragg ey?
    Maybe if you were on the pace at 1.27's youd find it a little more exciting.

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    1 Car streight into the end of an exsposed armcoh? barrier, 1 rider Killed?

    The track design is 100% NOT safe as the facts proove.

    Thanks to Craig Shirrifs comments on the front streight, and he is a man with balls and a brain!

    The track is being run in the WRONG design direction

    we can go on about this and that being the cause, but like my TT crash, if there was NO CONCRETE wall there, There would be NO RIP THREAD TO TIM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    The track design is 100% NOT safe as the facts proove.
    No track is 100% safe as accidents all around New Zealand tracks prove

    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    The track is being run in the WRONG design direction
    If it truly had been designed to be run the other direction then we'd be doing it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    No track is 100% safe as accidents all around New Zealand tracks prove


    # I did not say that tracks should be 100% safe, what I said was, this NEW track, has proven itself NOT to be as safe as a track should/could be



    If it truly had been designed to be run the other direction then we'd be doing it
    Not after it was thought that cars could loose a wheel which could end up on the MOTORWAY if run in the anti clock wise direction?

    Just take a good look at the design/flow of corners, it was designed to be run in anti clock direction I believe, but the above put them off. It would have been cheaper and better to just build a bloody big fense beside the motorway, but i suppose when you have NO money to spend, and need to find a way of generating money, you do what you have to do to achieve this, buisness can be a very vicious things at times
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    Not after it was thought that cars could loose a wheel which could end up on the MOTORWAY if run in the anti clock wise direction?
    Is that true ? That is shocking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    Just take a good look at the design/flow of corners, it was designed to be run in anti clock direction I believe
    I would have to ride it to be convinced, I would have thought there wouldn't be enough run off at the hairpin in reverse

    I also don't think it would be as interesting a track to ride
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mort View Post
    Is that true ? That is shocking.


    I can NOT say that is a FACT, it came out of the mouth of an accountant who was involved up there some how. And looking at the track after all the tracks I have been on around the world, I believe it to be true due to the chambers etc in certain turns as well as the pit entrance and exit design
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    Pit lane exit would be about the most dangerous thing on any track in NZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    You sure about that?, the fastest cars (single seaters) are close to 260kmh thats down on the Superbikes but it'd have to be close to 600 speed

    "The lap record has been broken again by Mitch Evans during the NZ Motor Cup weekend.

    Evans clocked in at 1:01.846, set on lap 12 of the second race with a best speed of 153.090 km/h"


    "The lap record for Motorbikes was recorded on a Prod Superbike ridden by Andrew Stroud during the NZ Superbike Championship 2010 at 1:04.693

    Top recorded speed is 287 kph by Andrew Stroud on his Suzuki!"
    Guy I work with used to regularly take his Porsche 911 turbo around HD and used to struggle with tail end issues over the hump. Thus I would imagine many race cars would struggle just as much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    Guy I work with used to regularly take his Porsche 911 turbo around HD and used to struggle with tail end issues over the hump. Thus I would imagine many race cars would struggle just as much.
    Any one know what the car racing forums (if such things exist) are saying about HD?
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    I bet these two would have something to say about the design.... would this have happened if the circuit was run the other way round ?

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    Its shocking to think the accident with Tim would not have happened if the circuit was run as designed..... there needs to be an explanation from the circuit owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mort View Post
    Is that true ? That is shocking.
    Yep this is true, LTSA stopped the owners running the track in the direction it was ment to run for this reason ( from one of the owners mouth). You just have to look at the pit entrance and exit. They are completly wrong for the direction as it is.
    now. Yes I think when revenue has picked up and more work can be done, the track will revert to the way it was ment to run.
    My 2 cents

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    Quote Originally Posted by rat View Post
    Yep this is true, LTSA stopped the owners running the track in the direction it was ment to run for this reason ( from one of the owners mouth). You just have to look at the pit entrance and exit. They are completly wrong for the direction as it is.
    now. Yes I think when revenue has picked up and more work can be done, the track will revert to the way it was ment to run.
    My 2 cents

    Cheers Rat, there had to be some logical? Reason about this.
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    I wasn't sure at first but it makes sense to me now looking at the width of turn one, the temporary wall (on the inside of turn one (right on the apex), the width of turn 6, the wall the car hit above, the entrance to the Pit lane and the original placement of the finish line. The circuit is designed to run the other way.



    You know what - that really is a disgusting monolithic fuck up which arguably cost some one their life.

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