How to break it to your wife

[mashman]

My message kind of got lost with my emotion, what i was really trying to say was:

This is the real COST of the ACC levy's, the human cost. This wasn't just a whim, she's shit scared of the study and what it means to the family in terms of quality time.

I'd REALLY go into what it means, but i'm just a little distraught, stunned, call it disbelief, that the government are prepared to screw the present for the future... not fully realising the pressures that they're putting on people, or moreover not caring!

I'm comfortable, have backup plans etc... there are some that aren't and don't. If i have to make what looks like a childish sacrifice, then what the hell is the effect going to be on those less fortunate than myself...

And for the record, my reason in times of emotional outburst and my logic in times chaos has told me that the bike is to stay, but only as long as the family aren't paying for it... My Wife knows i'll sell the bike in a heartbeat for the benefit of the family, there's never been any doubt about it... but it's the above that worries me.

[imdying]

A man puts his wife first in every regard. If you want to be one, you know what to do. Buy a bike you can afford to run in the mean time... shit even a mini moto or bucket racer could help stave off the beast for a few years.

[Jonno.]

I'm sorry for bumping this but this has got to be a piss take?
What a dick
Trying to blame ACC for the fact you don't want your missus to go to university is almost beyond belief. Especially with a 2005 aprilla.

Get a student loan.
1000$ for course related costs.
160$ a week for living costs.
There's scholarships out there for ECE (10k allowance + fees paid for)
You can get subsidized childcare for the little one.

There is no way in hell you can use ACC as an excuse

[mashman]

I'm sorry for bumping this but this has got to be a piss take?
What a dick
Trying to blame ACC for the fact you don't want your missus to go to university is almost beyond belief. Especially with a 2005 aprilla.

Get a student loan.
1000$ for course related costs.
160$ a week for living costs.
There's scholarships out there for ECE (10k allowance + fees paid for)
You can get subsidized childcare for the little one.

There is no way in hell you can use ACC as an excuse

ha ha haaaaa, i was just saying that at that particular point in time that extra levy hike could have put us in a financially precarious position. Turns out that there were even more levy hikes in the pipeline... who would have thought eh!

As a footnote though, she never went to college. Things kinda screwed the timetable, still are screwing the timetable, so she has postponed her course for a year... shit happens i guess.

To be fair you don't know the ins and outs of our situation and it's never that easy... which is why, when i went on about the human cost of ACC rises, I was actually thinking about people in general. things you have to give up because some fucker can't get his sums right etc...

As for the bike argument... how much do you think Aprilias cost... the way you're going on it's as if i could sell the thing and buy the college... fook me!

But, a hearty fuck you very much for your concern

[Mully]

I'd REALLY go into what it means, but i'm just a little distraught, stunned, call it disbelief, that the government are prepared to screw the present for the future... not fully realising the pressures that they're putting on people, or moreover not caring!

Sorry to continue with the thread dredge, but IMHO, this is what happens with governments (all of them) are focussed on a three year cycle.

Look at it this way - to really "solve" the underclass problem in NZ and the problems that go with it (drugs, beaten children, disease and so on) would take years and would require a fundamental shifting in thinking (and a fundamental shift in where the $$ go). It's just about a generation to solve.

So they all (Red, Blue, Green, Yellow) come up with a "band-aid" (do they know it's Xmas?) solution to the problem so they can say "hey look, we're doing stuff" without costing millions of dollars and thousands of votes from the people who think it's unfair to throw money at the underclass.

If any goverment got in and said "We're going to commit billions of dollars to this over, say, 20 years" it'd be political suicide.

Short-term thinking gets short-term "solutions"

[mashman]

Look at it this way - to really "solve" the underclass problem in NZ and the problems that go with it (drugs, beaten children, disease and so on) would take years and would require a fundamental shifting in thinking (and a fundamental shift in where the $$ go). It's just about a generation to solve.

Short-term thinking gets short-term "solutions"

I agree completely. BUT, you are talking about a MONMENTAL shift in thinking. But whilst you're at it, why not make a short-term solution actually work, ya know, in a permanent way? Everything you talk about "(and a fundamental shift in where the $$ go)"... why not do the same but remove $$$ from the equation permanently. then you don't have to think about "(and a fundamental shift in where the $$ go)", you just do it. And " (drugs, beaten children, disease and so on)" would all but go away perhaps? Somewhere along the line, as we get to about 18 (and earlier), something changes people i.e. what to do with our time... oo, somewhere to live... food to eat... easy, get a job (policeman, carpenter etc...), go on the dole, become a drug dealer, become a student, become a humanitarian etc... it's about survival and that's what you have to do to survive in THIS day and age. In other words, it all takes money. Lack of it creates poverty, homelesness, stresses trying to make ends meet, a high rate of unwanted births???, dunno, fill it in yourself i guess. We all want everyone to be inherently happy, having at least the bare essentials... we all want ACC to remain ACC (but theres a $ in it), we all want top of the line suspension... whatever we all want we can just have... as long as money or a variant of never exists.