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Honda VFR1200 a big fat lemon?
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...?&R=EPI-120478
MCN appears to be decidedly underwhelmed, despite a junket on some of Europe's best motorcycle riding roads in the south of Spain.
I must admit to being very surprised when Honda announced that they planned to replace three iconic models (the VFR800, CBR1100XX and ST1300) with a single model. "Honda-san knows what he's doing," I said. It appears that I may have been wrong.
"Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]
pizza for cat?
shit, so is that the end of the VFR800?
its bloody ugly. very BMWish but with a huge crappy exhaust
Originally Posted by Fatt Max
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Yes it is. Buy one now if you want a new one.
"Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]
pizza for cat?
always wanted a VFR800 but figured i would get one when i grew out of the sports bike lifestyle.
hang on ... 800 is more than 600 so i guess national have fucked that idea for me anyway.
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And if you want this new Honda to do what an ST1300 does, you have to buy hard luggage, adding to what already looks like being a pricey bike.
"Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]
Everyone looks forward to a new V4 from Honda and instead of chocolate camshafts they give us a whale. With hidden wheels, two clutches nicked from an Audi and a cross-your-heart bra to keep the screen on. Don't mention the exhaust.
I like your thinking 325rocket. In for a penny, in for a pound. If you're going to buy something over 600cc, it may as well make 200 HP, 200 torques and be capable of scaling Mt Aoraki in a single bound. Chin Up, they won't be able to catch you on your ATV crotch rocket.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
parting of the sensory
Looks like mebbe the end of Hondas for me.
That's OK - I've always hankered after a Ducati, and the Triumphs are finally starting to get better than the crappy 750 triple I rode 9 years ago.
... and that's what I think.
Or summat.
Or maybe not...
Dunno really....
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08 CBR1000RR was also a dog. Dynamically it was the balls; reliability has been an international meltdown!.....Check out honda/fireblade forums on the subject, last time I looked the subject was as popular as ACC is for KB.
Honda is facing stiff competition and buckling under the weight of their own arrogance!
http://geoffjames.blogspot.com
Technical masterpiece? Possibly.
Does it appeal to VFR 800, CBR1100XX or ST1300 users? Well, all the international Blackbird websites think it's a dog, so there's one "loyal to Honda" market sector alienated for starters. With all that tasteless chrome and bling, it might find a bit of a following in Uncle Sam.
Nope, it might just be an expensive lemon.
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It wouldn't have taken much to upgrade the ST1300: revised rake, 120/70 17" front and 180/55 17" rear; adjustable USD Showa front suspenders; modified screen; pannier locks that let the key be removed when the box is open; span-adjustable clutch lever; some edgier styling cues and louder pipes to hide that really annoying cam whine; and Mr Honda would have a product that went close to an FJR1300.
"Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
Not so.
The 800 will continue in production.
Latest BRM article on the 1200 and the re-review of the 800, as reference here.
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It is ugly............. Shame I might have liked a third VFR.
Not according to the latest airfreighted Bike magazine I read.
If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?
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Or this: http://www.motorcycle.com/manufactur...led-88803.html
"Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]
L-Plate Rider
Ref Quote. SixPacBack Honda is facing stiff competition and buckling under the weight of their own arrogance!
You will find most of their R&D spend is going elsewhere, by that I mean not motorcycles, try alternative fuel vehicles, they are in the top 20 of R&D spenders of any industry worldwide and No.1 in the automotive industry hardly arrogance, just more focus elsewhere, which may in future bring newer tech to motorcycles.
Suzuki have been concentrating on other things for a while also, you only have to look at their rise in 4 stroke outboard motor sales, hardly a dramatic change in any of their bikes since the release of their improved cruiser class.
Kawasaki are developing a new motorcycle engine, no sign of it yet, but their R&D budget is most likely being swallowed by their new train for moving the masses very quickly.
The only motorcycle company I see with R&D results of any future significance for the masses is BMW.
Last edited by GKTaylor; 4th December 2009 at 08:14. Reason: Forgot quote ref
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