Climatic Change

**scracha** · 1st December 2009, 22:00

Regardless of whether it's caused by humans or not, is anyone else kinda scared of all this global warming? Glaciers melting, antartica dissappearing, forst fires, hurricanes, heatwaves, disease spreading, sealevels rising, giant jellyfish, flooding, ocean acidification, etc etc.

**Mr Merde** · 1st December 2009, 22:19

Why worry.

If it happens it happens and there is really f all we can really do about it.

There was a time when Antartica was full of animal and plant life. It still had the long months of darkness and daylight but the animals adaoted. Then camne the ice. They all died. Who's to say that the earth isnt returning to aprevious state and that this is just another turn in a cycle/

99% of all life that has lived on this place we call Earth is now extinct. Could nature be telling us our time is near, in geological time maybe.

**2wheeldrifter** · 1st December 2009, 22:19

Originally Posted by scracha

Regardless of whether it's caused by humans or not, is anyone else kinda scared of all this global warming? Glaciers melting, antartica dissappearing, forst fires, hurricanes, heatwaves, disease spreading, sealevels rising, giant jellyfish, flooding, ocean acidification, etc etc.

Is a concern... more so for my kids!

Fuk no motorsports... or maybe motors for that matter!

Quick sell your beach front properties

**puddytat** · 1st December 2009, 23:07

Im really worried,my retirement aint looking anywhere as cosy as it did.
I think most folk really underestimate how deep the shit is that we're stumbling into.
I could go on & on but that'll just rev up the flat earthers that'll no doubt be along shortly.....

**Thaeos** · 2nd December 2009, 01:15

2012 baby, here it comes!

**JimO** · 2nd December 2009, 06:01

Originally Posted by puddytat

Im really worried,my retirement aint looking anywhere as cosy as it did.
I think most folk really underestimate how deep the shit is that we're stumbling into.
I could go on & on but that'll just rev up the flat earthers that'll no doubt be along shortly.....

the sky is falling

**flyingcr250** · 2nd December 2009, 06:05

im not worried, nothing HUGE is going to happen in my lifetime, except maybe poverty caused by the price rises associated with the stupid moronic ETS,
how is charging people gunna save the planet?? at the end of the day all this isnt to save the planet, its to save US!!! the planet will still be here long after people are gone, itll just regenerate and the cycle will start all over again.

**Quasievil** · 2nd December 2009, 06:24

the basis for it is a load of crap, here sums up my opinion

**Quasievil** · 2nd December 2009, 06:28

**zahria** · 2nd December 2009, 06:32

Its the fact that the working taxpayer again is being lumbered with yet more bloody taxes to pay for goddam carbon credits etc that pisses me off.
Look at the fires in the States, they won't be paying carbon credits for those?
China's Factory practices, the list goes on.

I reckon that it is a spin off from the World wars last century, and all the associated crap that got blown into the atmosphere.

**Bounce001** · 2nd December 2009, 08:32

Global warming is a crock of shit made up by politicians to get more tax.

**Pwalo** · 2nd December 2009, 09:03

Originally Posted by scracha

Regardless of whether it's caused by humans or not, is anyone else kinda scared of all this global warming? Glaciers melting, antartica dissappearing, forst fires, hurricanes, heatwaves, disease spreading, sealevels rising, giant jellyfish, flooding, ocean acidification, etc etc.

No. The earth has been warmer before (ie the early Medieval period - you know before the Industrial Revolution), so I'm looking forward to a bit of warming.

**Blackbird** · 2nd December 2009, 09:04

The most readable book on climate change I've found is by our very own Dr David Morgan, economist and biker extrordiaire. He found it very hard to wade through the hyperbole and in some cases, downright dishonesty by scientists and politicians on both sides of the argument. He used some of his considerable resources to go digging and his book, " Poles Apart: Beyond the shouting, who’s right about climate change?" is the result.

Fascinating reading and written in a style which can be readily understood. Entertaining too! Go to your local library or bookshop.

**Jantar** · 2nd December 2009, 09:06

Here we go again. Thread number 297565 on Global warming

Originally Posted by scracha

Regardless of whether it's caused by humans or not, is anyone else kinda scared of all this global warming?

Not scared at all. Because if you look at the actual data http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/public/m.../tltglhmam_5.2 You'll see that the atmosphere has been cooling since the extreme high of 1998. If we treat that high and the 1999 low as anomalies and discard them then the temperatures have still not risen over the last 9 years, and there are many indications of record low temperatures in 2009.

Glaciers melting,

The earth experienced a minin ice age only 150 - 300 years ago. During this period glaciers advanced, the Thames froze over, crops failed in many parts of the world etc. We have been rebounding from that ice age ever since. Now, what do you think happens to glaciers that have advanced during an ice age when that ice age ends?

Oh, and many glaciers around the world (including he western ones in New Zealand) are showing signs of advancing again.

antartica dissappearing,

Huh? That is a new one. The West Antartic ice sheet is breaking up, but that is above the antarctic circle, and has done this many times before. The remainder of Antartica is comprised mainly of glaciers over bedrock, and these glaciers are so massive that they are hard to comprehend. But like all glaciers they are flowing, so they calve. Nothing new there. But Antartica disappearing? Where is that data?

forst fires,

What have forest fires got to do with global warming? I believe that in last years fires in Australia, nearly all were as a result of arson. Does Global warming cause arsonists?

hurricanes,

There are no more or less hurricanes now than there have been in the past. More are being recorded now that they are measured by satelite, but no more are happening. If there are more hurricanes then that would prove the planet is cooling. Severe weathere is caused by a temperature difference between the poles and the equator. Global warming says that the polar regions will heat up first, so that would lead to more benign weather patterns, not more extreme one.

heatwaves,

And cold waves. The lowest November temperatures ever recorded in parts of USA. Record cold spells in Russia, the coldest May since records began in New Zealand (did you miss that one?).

disease spreading,

Like swine flu? People are more mobile now, so when a new disease evolves it will spread much faster. like at 400 knots in a 747 instead of 4 knots in a sailing ship.

sealevels rising,

I love this one. Have a read of http://www.john-daly.com/deadisle/index.htm Its a bit old now, but then again so are the claims that have been disproved.

giant jellyfish, flooding, ocean acidification, etc etc.

Nothing to do with Global warming etc. etc. etc.

**wysper** · 2nd December 2009, 09:20

Originally Posted by 2wheeldrifter

Is a concern... more so for my kids!

Fuk no motorsports... or maybe motors for that matter!

Quick sell your beach front properties

or buy a property a few hundred yards back and start laughing!!

Originally Posted by puddytat

Im really worried,my retirement aint looking anywhere as cosy as it did.
I think most folk really underestimate how deep the shit is that we're stumbling into.
I could go on & on but that'll just rev up the flat earthers that'll no doubt be along shortly.....

I like my little piece of flat earth.. stops those marbles that I keep losing rolling off