SS150 allowed slicks or not?

[gatch]

wow.. thats news to me....

taken from vic club website
http://www.vicclub.co.nz/tiki-read_a...nilite%20rules

Rear shocks
If the original shock needs to be replaced and an original OEM exact shock cannot be sourced, a similar OEM fitment shock is permissible for use. E.g. Fitting a rear shock from a 1991 GSXR250 in a 1991 ZXR250. The replacement shock must be of similar specification, dimension and/or period available for the original model and its variants.

Tyre warmers
Can be used in “Mini Lite 250” class

Tyres
Only tyre sizes that are suitable for the rim size of that model bike, according to the tyre manufacturers specifications, are permissible. Race style DOT road legal tyres are permissible.
If in the event of a “WET RACE” an alternative DOT tyre (refer to the preceding regulation) can be used with different tread. E.g. Bridgestone BT45 to suit the conditions.
Hand cut DOT size race tyres will be allowed. E.g. Dunlop GPR-a10 in the event of a “WET RACE”.
Non-DOT approved tyres will not be allowed. E.g. Race Slicks and Race Wets.

Now I KNOW that from being up close with some of the bikes, that the rules have been bent.

[ajturbo]

it was the fellow who sponsored the 250 class, may have managed to sneak in some supplementary rules to suit the bike he had already..

let me repeat myself...

wow that is news to me.....

as this rule came in 2 full years before the 250cc class was introduced.....

now you ARE talking about the SS150 class still right?

[gatch]

let me repeat myself...

wow that is news to me.....

as this rule came in 2 full years before the 250cc class was introduced.....

now you ARE talking about the SS150 class still right?

No, 250s.. I don't know when the 250 race was introduced.

Why be so sarcastic ? Its not doing anyone any good.

[woodyracer]

lets not fight now , i do agree with AJTURBO, because even the new hyosung 250 class isnt allowed tyre warmers......

Ive spent enogh money buying the bike, and it would be good not having people who are racing me running tyre warmers.

[budda]

just get yourself a set of BT39SS's and enjoy yourself man - thats what its all about, isnt it ?
Dunno where you got the "limited performance" idea from, work well in New Zealand, not sure about Pig Island

[quallman1234]

Argh this has been covered in a thread spanning freak'n many many pages.

Road Legal dot tyres only, for the vic series. South Islander's run slicks.
If you have a problem, get the vic series supplementary rules change.

[woodyracer]

they have the rules for a reason i guess......so ill jsut go along with them.

bt39's are limited compared with my tyres on my bucket {125gp slicks} so i was hopeing to have them same amazing grip on my ss150...

[Duke girl]

On my RG 150 Suzuki Streetstock I have Bridgestone BT-39F SS which are Awesome Tyres as they have excellent grip which I found out a couple of weekends ago when I attended the Suzuki Track Day and went out there in the rain, and they never once slipped out on me.

Each to their own but they are the tyres I will be sticking with.

[woodyracer]

On my RG 150 Suzuki Streetstock I have Bridgestone BT-39F SS which are Awesome Tyres as they have excellent grip which I found out a couple of weekends ago when I attended the Suzuki Track Day and went out there in the rain, and they never once slipped out on me.

Each to their own but they are the tyres I will be sticking with.

yes, there great in the wet and the hot, but i used to have a pair on my fxr150, and in the cold they felt slippery.

I got the bike today, looks awsome but it it has a slick on the front.....and with the TTRRS coming im going to have to find out if i can run an old front slick or not.....otherwise its BT39 time!!

[oyster]

Argh this has been covered in a thread spanning freak'n many many pages.

Road Legal dot tyres only, for the vic series. South Islander's run slicks.
If you have a problem, get the vic series supplementary rules change.

A minor point here, the Dunlops and Bridgestone are not DOT. They are JIS and other brands, (Pirelli etc) are EU> Just wording tho, what's meant is "road legal"
Are you sure all the NI clubs run Supp rules the same as the Vic Club?
I thought all clubs except the Vic club ran MNZ rules. Woody needs to know if he's riding at Taupo or Auckland if it's MNZ or Vic rules.

The BT39ss and TT900 are good, and will last well if ridden well below lap record pace. So, for example if someone does 2.03 around Ruapuna and 1.32 round Manfeild, they're fine. But if people are doing '54's and '25's
respectively, these types of tyre will only be good for a few meetings at the most. They "feather up" big time and don't necessarily lose their grip, but lose stability and feel. When the grip goes it goes with a "bang", literally. The slicks are no faster, the bike layout/suspension largely controls that. The lap records are on treaded road legal tyres, but, of couurse, brand new. But the slick's benefit is stability, feel and VERY long life, no matter how hard they're ridden. And when they finally wear out, they just "fade away" with no sudden loss of ability to "bite" the rider without warning. After all, they're a race tyre, not a glorified commuter tyre.

[ajturbo]

thanks "oyster"... i have used the slicks and i still recone they are the way to go.... but along with peter... these words fall on deaf ears.....

[woodyracer]

A minor point here, the Dunlops and Bridgestone are not DOT. They are JIS and other brands, (Pirelli etc) are EU> Just wording tho, what's meant is "road legal"
Are you sure all the NI clubs run Supp rules the same as the Vic Club?
I thought all clubs except the Vic club ran MNZ rules. Woody needs to know if he's riding at Taupo or Auckland if it's MNZ or Vic rules.

The BT39ss and TT900 are good, and will last well if ridden well below lap record pace. So, for example if someone does 2.03 around Ruapuna and 1.32 round Manfeild, they're fine. But if people are doing '54's and '25's
respectively, these types of tyre will only be good for a few meetings at the most. They "feather up" big time and don't necessarily lose their grip, but lose stability and feel. When the grip goes it goes with a "bang", literally. The slicks are no faster, the bike layout/suspension largely controls that. The lap records are on treaded road legal tyres, but, of couurse, brand new. But the slick's benefit is stability, feel and VERY long life, no matter how hard they're ridden. And when they finally wear out, they just "fade away" with no sudden loss of ability to "bite" the rider without warning. After all, they're a race tyre, not a glorified commuter tyre.

thanks oyster, ive PM'ed the TRRS fella's about their rules on this issue....
im with you on the bt39's and tt900's, im not new to racing and i do hang off the bike alot campared to other riders.....so tire grip is very important for me, im used to 125gp tires which in my opinion have unlimited potentual......even in the wet i thought they were good!

i dont have limited money for new tires becasue im saving up for a pro-twin bike when im older.....so bt39's would not be well suited for me....

Cheers -Max

[Str8 Jacket]

Jeebus, I am going to be using my winter series tyres @ Taupo on my RG. I use TT900's, I don't hang of my bike but I do get pretty close to the edge of the tyre to the point of chamber scraping (doh!) and they have done me very well and still have a decent life left in them. TBH didn't even think of using anything different cause im so used to Vic Club rules....

I use BT's on my FXR for commuting and Bucket Racing and have no probs with them either.

While I am not one of the "faster riders" I can personally say that I have had no problems with either in the wet and rain on the track and on the road. I know of many other SS's @ Vic Club that ran one or the other with no probs either. Though I am always of the opinion that if you are a good rider you're going to be competitive in something like buckets and/ or SS150's no matter your set up (within reason of course). Racing is always at least 80-90% physchological... Still like to give a decent pair of slicks a go. The last pair I had were fucked and helped to my fine spill at Ruapuna!

[xr-rider]

Jeebus, I am going to be using my winter series tyres @ Taupo on my RG. I use TT900's, I don't hang of my bike but I do get pretty close to the edge of the tyre to the point of chamber scraping (doh!) and they have done me very well and still have a decent life left in them. TBH didn't even think of using anything different cause im so used to Vic Club rules....

I use BT's on my FXR for commuting and Bucket Racing and have no probs with them either.

While I am not one of the "faster riders" I can personally say that I have had no problems with either in the wet and rain on the track and on the road. I know of many other SS's @ Vic Club that ran one or the other with no probs either. Though I am always of the opinion that if you are a good rider you're going to be competitive in something like buckets and/ or SS150's no matter your set up (within reason of course). Racing is always at least 80-90% physchological... Still like to give a decent pair of slicks a go. The last pair I had were fucked and helped to my fine spill at Ruapuna!

i run a bt39s on the front and tt900 on the back. they were second hand when i got them for round 2 of the winter series. they are great tires, i have yet to find the limits of the tires, when the pegs scrap the tires feel like they have plenty of grip left.

[puddytat]

Funnily enough the 250 class seems to allow wets, aaaaaaaand tyre warmers..

I wonder what the story is there

MNZ rules state clearly that tyre warmers arnt allowed in Streetstock 250....
"Only tyres on general sale to the public in N.Z as road legal fitment are permitted"
" Front & rear tyres fitted must conform to the tyre importers specifications for the homolgated rim size that model"