How to break through the barrier?

[gixerracer]

Ok so I seem to be stuck at a certain level with my times etc.

At what point does someone need to get some advice as to where to go next in regards to improvement?

I've done my own testing of different idea's with lines and trying holding different gears etc............but whatever I do I end up with the same times.

Is it just a matter of more more more time on track?

Tony it is really very easy just brake heaps later go roound the corners way faster and open the gas much sooner and harder and you lap times will tumble I can not figure out why jimmy couldnt follow my advice
The superbike school at hampton would be ideal as would brian bernard either way will be the best money you will ever spend if you are stuck in a rut

[Shaun]

Unless you're Keith Code, I dont see much chance of that happening.

Kieth Code is NOT there, Just his Buisness name. His boys there, are Taught by him, so teachers being taught by a teacher

[Shaun]

At what point? When they hit a brick wall and can't improve. The thing is, it's important to have advice from the right person. For instance, Craig can't tell me how to ride faster. He's tried. It doesn't work because I can't grasp how to acheive what he's saying.

However, one day with Mr Harris at Pukekohe, 2.3 seconds vanished over 4 sessions on the track. Everything he says, works in my brain.

But eventually, everyone gets to a point where they're not going to go any faster no matter what they do.

Glad I serviced you well mate

[Devil]

Kieth Code is NOT there, Just his Buisness name. His boys there, are Taught by him, so teachers being taught by a teacher

Exactly the point I was after. Its his program, and thats what the coaches teach.

[roadracingoldfart]

Ok so I seem to be stuck at a certain level with my times etc.

At what point does someone need to get some advice as to where to go next in regards to improvement?

I've done my own testing of different idea's with lines and trying holding different gears etc............but whatever I do I end up with the same times.

Is it just a matter of more more more time on track?

Easy Tony , Give it just enough shit to make a differance , but not so much as to make shit happen

[White trash]

Tony it is really very easy just brake heaps later go roound the corners way faster and open the gas much sooner and harder and you lap times will tumble I can not figure out why jimmy couldnt follow my advice
The superbike school at hampton would be ideal as would brian bernard either way will be the best money you will ever spend if you are stuck in a rut

Take that advice and something will be sure to tumble.

You're not a bad bike racer, but your advice and descriptive skills rank right alongside your karting skills. Seriously average.

[FROSTY:Me]

Tony I can't claim to be any expert. But i found i sat at a certain speed level for ages. What worked for me was just saying fuckit who cares and relaxing and slowing down. I relaxed and the lap times stayed the same. then the laptimes started to tumble bit by bit.
Maybee you are putting pressure on youself andrelaxing will help ya have fun.
Another thingi tried was foccussing on two corners --the two I was fucking up the most. The rest of the track i just coasted.

[marty]

get rid of the lap timer. it's the best way to go faster no matter what timed sport you are doing.

[oyster]

I've coached heaps of people out of this rut. What doesn't work is the "tell them how to do it" and the "bungy cord, follow me around approach"
What does work is to take a break from the "perfect" No 1 bike they're riding and go riding for fun on such like as old proddy bikes, classics, buckets and mouldy trail bikes with shitty tyres and suspension. Add a bit of mountain biking, especially downhill.This trains the conscious and auto responsory skills. When they "come back" this skill and mental fitness
instanty makes a big improvement.
Skill isn't learned, it's like a muscle, it needs time and practice. To do this well, use the head and a structured approach.

[lostinflyz]

Tony I can't claim to be any expert. But i found i sat at a certain speed level for ages. What worked for me was just saying fuckit who cares and relaxing and slowing down. I relaxed and the lap times stayed the same. then the laptimes started to tumble bit by bit.
Maybee you are putting pressure on youself andrelaxing will help ya have fun.
Another thingi tried was foccussing on two corners --the two I was fucking up the most. The rest of the track i just coasted.

this is solid advice. i spent 9 months this year pushing as hard as i could, crashing a fair bit and my times weren't improving and eventually my condfidence was pretty shattered.

Eventually i decide to relax and just flow with it a bit more, got a gps lap timer that gave splits all round the track so i knew what i was actually doing and let be what would be. and rode lots. At first i didn't really go much faster but i got super consistent, to the point where i was doing whole races with pb's just 0.1 faster than every other lap.

Then lately its just started to flow. last weekend, i gained 2 seconds round ruapuna, first improvement there all year, and my logger is still saying if i did my best times at every corner, i can do a lap that would be another second faster.

[gixerracer]

this is solid advice. i spent 9 months this year pushing as hard as i could, crashing a fair bit and my times weren't improving and eventually my condfidence was pretty shattered.

Eventually i decide to relax and just flow with it a bit more, got a gps lap timer that gave splits all round the track so i knew what i was actually doing and let be what would be. and rode lots. At first i didn't really go much faster but i got super consistent, to the point where i was doing whole races with pb's just 0.1 faster than every other lap.

Then lately its just started to flow. last weekend, i gained 2 seconds round ruapuna, first improvement there all year, and my logger is still saying if i did my best times at every corner, i can do a lap that would be another second faster.

wer do ya get that type of timing device from?

[zxr400#150]

on the keith code side of it. have u read a twist of the wrist and a twist of the wrist two? there a road racers bible on how to go faster. helped for me

[lostinflyz]

wer do ya get that type of timing device from?

www.racesupplies.co.nz

Kevin will hook you up. He should have them in stock, and he will keep you up to date on updates too.

http://www.xtracing.com/en/gpxpro/index.php

for details on them.

They cost a few pennies, but what you learn if you sit and think about what your doing a bit, is worth more than alot more expensive modifications you can make.