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    How to break through the barrier?

    Ok so I seem to be stuck at a certain level with my times etc.

    At what point does someone need to get some advice as to where to go next in regards to improvement?

    I've done my own testing of different idea's with lines and trying holding different gears etc............but whatever I do I end up with the same times.

    Is it just a matter of more more more time on track?

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    Training. It's a lot more efficient than just riding around seeing what will happen.

    Why dont you sign up for the California Superbike School.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony.OK View Post
    Ok so I seem to be stuck at a certain level with my times etc.

    At what point does someone need to get some advice as to where to go next in regards to improvement?

    I've done my own testing of different idea's with lines and trying holding different gears etc............but whatever I do I end up with the same times.

    Is it just a matter of more more more time on track?
    no its the fact that you have a hondaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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    At what point? When they hit a brick wall and can't improve. The thing is, it's important to have advice from the right person. For instance, Craig can't tell me how to ride faster. He's tried. It doesn't work because I can't grasp how to acheive what he's saying.

    However, one day with Mr Harris at Pukekohe, 2.3 seconds vanished over 4 sessions on the track. Everything he says, works in my brain.

    But eventually, everyone gets to a point where they're not going to go any faster no matter what they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil View Post
    Training. It's a lot more efficient than just riding around seeing what will happen.

    Why dont you sign up for the California Superbike School.
    hes not that slow that he needs that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil View Post
    Training. It's a lot more efficient than just riding around seeing what will happen.

    Why dont you sign up for the California Superbike School.
    If I could afford it I would, I have watched a UK series about the CSS and have been using their techniques which do help.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sidewinder View Post
    no its the fact that you have a hondaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
    ha bikes faster than I am
    Quote Originally Posted by White trash View Post
    At what point? When they hit a brick wall and can't improve. The thing is, it's important to have advice from the right person. For instance, Craig can't tell me how to ride faster. He's tried. It doesn't work because I can't grasp how to acheive what he's saying.

    However, one day with Mr Harris at Pukekohe, 2.3 seconds vanished over 4 sessions on the track. Everything he says, works in my brain.

    But eventually, everyone gets to a point where they're not going to go any faster no matter what they do.
    I hear ya Jimmy, tried following Hayden yesterday but he buggered off too quick to learn anything lol. Maybe I'm just a little worried about falling off if I push too hard still?

    Just have to keep trying!

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    most bins wins bruh! try some real rubber aswell that may help a lill too

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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash View Post
    However, one day with Mr Harris at Pukekohe, 2.3 seconds vanished over 4 sessions on the track. Everything he says, works in my brain.
    WTF???? Your brain works like Shauns!!!! Well, you're screwed then!!!!
    Is it still beastiality if ya fuck a frozen chicken??

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrivy View Post
    WTF???? Your brain works like Shauns!!!! Well, you're screwed then!!!!
    did you not hear that jimmy got dropped on his head aswel?

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    I've got some Suzuki stickers you can have! And if you ever feel the need to go slower you know my number. In all seriousness though its never a wrong time to get coaching, if you got say three or four riders and approached someone like Shaun to see if he could help on a day and split the cost. I learnt heaps from Aaron Slight on a honda rider training day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony.OK View Post
    I hear ya Jimmy, tried following Hayden yesterday but he buggered off too quick to learn anything lol. Maybe I'm just a little worried about falling off if I push too hard still?

    Just have to keep trying!
    Tony, having people tell you to do something doesn't always work. What I find useful for newbies (I know you're not) is to follow other experienced racers around. Tell them not to bugger off too fast, so you can get to learn some other lines. They may work for you, they may not.
    What you have to ensure is you are running the same type of gear, ie. same tyres, same pressures, same suspension set ups, etc, etc. This should ultimately let you know that if they can easily get around a corner at x speed, then so should you!!
    What I like to do (may sound stupid - but then hey - that's me), is to massively over inflate my tyres, and have my suspension set on rock solid. This lets me slide everywhere all the time. This is the fastest way for me to learn how to control slides and learn what happens at full speed and also in the event of a near disaster!! It very quickly hones your skills!
    I know I'm on a sidecar - but I also use the theory on my solos too!

    More to the point - it gives spectators something to watch.....
    Is it still beastiality if ya fuck a frozen chicken??

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    try to understand where you are relatively slower than others ie, entry to turn, mid turn, exit. break it all down and work on one area at a time.

    eg. if you are losing on exit/drive, try rolling on earlier mid turn and faster. if the back is sliding around and limiting drive look at tyres and suspention for a partial solution.

    if it is mid turn, try carrying more speed from corner entry through to mid turn.

    need to get in behind (and stay behind) faster riders to see where you are losing time. work on one area at a time. make each lap count. each lap you should be working towards improving in one area, dont just go out and ride, focus on making full use of every lap. track time is expensive. have a plan and get it done.

    hope that helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidewinder View Post
    hes not that slow that he needs that
    Its quite relevant no matter how fast you are or how long you've been riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrivy View Post
    What I like to do is to massively over inflate my tyres, and have my suspension set on rock solid. This lets me slide everywhere all the time.
    Y'know, Scrivy, we would never have guessed you'd take an approach like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    Y'know, Scrivy, we would never have guessed you'd take an approach like that.
    Works for me. Looks like it worked for Betty too.......
    Is it still beastiality if ya fuck a frozen chicken??

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