Cops and their new powers

[red mermaid]

But if you haven't taken any drugs and are stoned out of your brain while driving, then there is no problem to give a blood sample as it will come back negative and there will be no charges.

[peasea]

But if you haven't taken any drugs and are stoned out of your brain while driving, then there is no problem to give a blood sample as it will come back negative and there will be no charges.

"If you haven't taken any drugs and are stoned out of your brain......"???
WTF? How does that work? I would really like to know, it'd be a whole bunch cheaper than the current carry-on.

"If you haven't..." nah, it'll never work.

[bogan]

This law is like saying:
Police: Hey 16 year old girl step out of the car and walk in a straight line.
Girl: Ok
Police: You can't walk in a straight line so I am going to require you to pull down your pants and I am going to stick my hand up your anus and vagina to see if there is any drugs in there which could be the reason why you cannot walk in a straight line. And after this I require you to come to the hospital to pump your stomach to see if you swallowed any drugs. You can refuse all of this but if you do you will be arrested, charged, and be convicted of refusing and then you will be fined or jailed.

Doesn't really sound right, but then neither does the 80k a year biker back injury you guys used on the news, while it is possible it puts a negative spin on it. Why not quote a more plausible case, stoned person is pulled over, made to take the test, fails, is charged.... stops him crashing into innocent pedestrians.

[red mermaid]

Doesn't really sound right, but then neither does the 80k a year biker back injury you guys used on the news, while it is possible it puts a negative spin on it. Why not quote a more plausible case, stoned person is pulled over, made to take the test, fails, is charged.... stops him crashing into innocent pedestrians.

You're right, it doesn't sound right and is not right.

Internal searches are not allowed, pumping of the stomach is not either, but the wild story suited babey8's crazy drug induced paranoia.

[BoristheBiter]

Exactly. My point is, you CAN still refuse.. Just wear the consequences. Don't bleat and say that you can be FORCED to give blood, when you can't be.

And I have seen a good number of people (I'd hazard a guess more than you have) who have successfully refused to give their fingerprints.

what station do you work at then?

[scumdog]

what station do you work at then?

He doesn't

He flys.

[marty]

what station do you work at then?

Like he said, I don't.

I just try to get the facts before getting all emotional

[kwaka_crasher]

If you come at them with a cocky , know it all, I know my fucky rights type attitude then expect to get shit, because YOU are starting with shit.

In what way is knowing your rights and exercising them giving cops shit?

[BoristheBiter]

Like he said, I don't.

I just try to get the facts before getting all emotional

i just know that if some is not holding their hand still you just get more people.

[scumdog]

In what way is knowing your rights and exercising them giving cops shit?

Stop stirring.

You know that there's a big difference between: "I know my rights"

And: "You pigs can't do jack shit, I know my rights and I don't have to tell you nuffink so youz can just piss-off right now"

You know which way is 'giving the cops shit' and making you look like 'da man' to your easily impressed mates - well it wouldn't be to impress the cop, whould it?

(Like any cop gives a f.f. anyway)

[huff3r]

I've actually been quite pleased with the attitude (or lack of) of NZ cops whenever ive had a run in, the young guys from the police college that run the booze buses down here are always quite pleasant to deal with, and the one time ive been pulled up doing something wrong the guy thought id seen him and was fleeing, and when he realised i never knew he was there before the lights came on he just checked everything over and sent me on my way .

[kwaka_crasher]

Stop stirring.

You know that there's a big difference between: "I know my rights"

And: "You pigs can't do jack shit, I know my rights and I don't have to tell you nuffink so youz can just piss-off right now"

You know which way is 'giving the cops shit' and making you look like 'da man' to your easily impressed mates - well it wouldn't be to impress the cop, whould it?

(Like any cop gives a f.f. anyway)

That's not my experience at all - quite the opposite. I've found they hate it and get quite visibly annoyed and upset when you're calm and don't give them anything other than that which you're obliged, especially as it always turns up nothing useful to them to assist in bullying you.

Then you see the sort who hurl abuse at the cops get told to just calm down. I guess that's because the cops know they don't actually know their rights or how to act so they know they'll get something useful out of them anyway.

[peasea]

Stop stirring.

You know that there's a big difference between: "I know my rights"

And: "You pigs can't do jack shit, I know my rights and I don't have to tell you nuffink so youz can just piss-off right now"

You know which way is 'giving the cops shit' and making you look like 'da man' to your easily impressed mates - well it wouldn't be to impress the cop, whould it?

(Like any cop gives a f.f. anyway)

I'm rolling MY eyes also.

[scumdog]

I've found they hate it and get quite visibly annoyed and upset when you're calm and don't give them anything other than that which you're obliged, especially as it always turns up nothing useful to them to assist in bullying you.

Then you see the sort who hurl abuse at the cops get told to just calm down. I guess that's because the cops know they don't actually know their rights or how to act so they know they'll get something useful out of them anyway.

Ist Para: I can tell that you have never been spoken to by me sunshine, ya must just meet the tetchy ones.

2nd Para: I 100% agree.