Draggin jeans VS Rhinos?

[steve_t]

The Rhino website doesn't tell you how much kevlar coverage there is. Anyone seen any of these?
Those Hood jeans from the UK basically have a full kevlar liner. The Hornee jeans look quite well covered too. My Shift jeans are OK but don't have internal pockets for armour
Haven't tried the Teknic jeans on.
Bought some 1tonne jeans a while back and they seemed good but were the wrong size and they didn't have any of my size when I tried to exchange them
Any others? (besides Draggins)

[Flip]

I was knocked off in town the other week.

I had dragon jeans on with hard CE armor in the knees. The only injury I had was a big black bruise where my wallet was.

I would say they worked very well.

[oldrider]

Fifty five years and thousands of Km of riding and I can still count my serious off's on one hand but during those off's I was very thankful for whatever protection I had!

It's like a life jacket, they are only any use when you are trying to drown-or not!

Now if you think about it over my riding time there is a lot of it that I could have done with being more comfortable and even a little more fashionable!

Because of that I have risked riding in ordinary jeans more often than I should have!

I am very interested / tempted to try the Draggin Jeans (or competitors products) but they are very expensive and probably no where near as effective as they claim they are, when it comes to the "crunch"!

Subsequently, I have not been game to try them, even though I would really like to! (flip floppin like a politician here)

Gutless prick I know! Maybe one day!

[sprintz]

Ive had a pair of draggin for 3 years and they've worn really well and look ok but thats not the point.
Thank God Ive never had to try them out in earnest and frankly I doubt they'd save my bones in a serious incident. Probably do the job if your in a slide though. The only serious protection is armour.

Leather can roll up into little balls on contact with rough road surface and tear off like a banana skin. Only know this cause my mates wife works on the ambulances in Invergiggle and a mate had the same experience.

He wouldnt even ride a moped down to the corner dairy without serious gear on now.

[Gizzit]

...... SNIP ........
Thank God Ive never had to try them out in earnest and frankly I doubt they'd save my bones in a serious incident. Probably do the job if your in a slide though. The only serious protection is armour. .... SNIP .....

Jeans with Kevlar in them ... will ... ONLY .... give some protection against "road rash" ... i.e. help to keep your skin intact, if you are sliding along the road ... and probably only for a short distance .... I would think.
They are not designed to do anything more than that. They are still just jeans after all .....

Any armour that was effective, underneath the jeans, would probably help against impact injury.

You have to be real about things. If you come off your bike/scoot/whatever, and land on the road .... something has got to give !! It ain't going to be the road !! You .. more than likely .... are going to get some kind of injuries.

Good leather gear, with proper certified armour securely in place, is going to be the best protection, bar none ..... IMHO.

and .... in saying that ...... I often wear draggins .... around town / 50kmh zones ... On the open road, .... it's leather ...

[NordieBoy]

You're on to it!
To anyone using kevlar jeans.... at the VERY least, use knee armour.
Knees don't look/function very well when the patella is ground off

Grinding is what the kevlar is to protect against.

You may have a shattered kneecap but it won't be ground away.

[Pussy]

Grinding is what the kevlar is to protect against.

You may have a shattered kneecap but it won't be ground away.

And it's shit useless at it.
I'll take a photo of a knee showing the "protection" that Draggins offer, and post it up in the near future.
So you've "ground" your knee on chip seal at 100km/h and not been damaged?

[Gezza]

Guys
The whole idea of starting this thread was to establish the difference in quality and price of jeans with kevlar in them. I regard myself as a casual rider and more often than not find myself wearing work pants(which is not good) as the temperatures start to increase, hence the discussion on kevlar jeans. I think we all understand that the kevlar jeans will only stop road rash but hey!!! They've gotta be better than work pants.

[Gizzit]

Guys
The whole idea of starting this thread was to establish the difference in quality and price of jeans with kevlar in them. I regard myself as a casual rider and more often than not find myself wearing work pants(which is not good) as the temperatures start to increase, hence the discussion on kevlar jeans. I think we all understand that the kevlar jeans will only stop road rash but hey!!! They've gotta be better than work pants.

Agreed !!

[IdunBrokdItAgin]

Guys
The whole idea of starting this thread was to establish the difference in quality and price of jeans with kevlar in them. I regard myself as a casual rider and more often than not find myself wearing work pants(which is not good) as the temperatures start to increase, hence the discussion on kevlar jeans. I think we all understand that the kevlar jeans will only stop road rash but hey!!! They've gotta be better than work pants.

Well said.

Every time there is a thread on any bike gear it always turns into "well the best gear for safety is" or "Jesus christ that is overpriced when a bin liner and some gaffer tape will do".

Now, I'm an ATGATT person but lately I've decided that my bike wear needs to be a little bit less extreme in the safety aspects. In this respect I have down graded (?) from cordura with knee amour to draggin jeans and from full on gauntlet racing gloves to wrist length to fit under my leather jacket better.

I am happy in both choices for commuting because I accept that they aren't top of the safety options. But for ease of use and for the type of risk on a commute they are fine.

Now I don't skimp on costs so cost is not a deterent but if I am commuting then I don't want to feel like I am ready to go into outer space or ready for a jousting session (from the amount of time it used to take to get all my gear on it felt like this).

Protection versus functionality is where I currently am in my headspace.
Be aware of what your gear is designed to do and accept the risk of it.
If you think there is an increased chance of coming of on a ride (say a track day or a wet commuting day) then put on your better stuff (if you have it).

Otherwise any protection is better than none.

Safe riding!

[wynw]

I havnt tried rhino jeans but tested my draggin's when i binned my 750 a few years back, Still got all my skin and stilll wearing the jeans... good enough for me, and they are comfortable too.

[Quasievil]

I think Rhino are lifestyle imports ones, Rick has started them on a new site is all.

As far as quality goes Im sure they are fine, probably 12 oz denium with soft kevlar in them.

I use a simlair style and ride in town, tho last year I fell off testing my motard brakes out the front of the house, was doing say 40 kmph, I had grazing all over the place, trouble is jeans are so loose fitting that they move around in a crash, yes lots of kevlar on the knee but not much use if they ride up ya leg so had grazes on both knees................imagine highway speeds.

[pritch]

leather is better

I'll second that.

If I had a job I could wear jeans to though, I'd consider kevlar jeans to cover the commute, but since I don't...

[chester]

price shouldnt be an issue, how much does your skin cost?
After havin a bin you will understand what you need to protect yourself.
Its not a nice feeling sliding down the road on ya arse, Ive got a set of Quasi leathers to thank for keeping my skin on, its a pity they dont make them for ya bike to slide on....

[Pathos]

When I was looking at kevlar jeans the price was dependant on how much kevlar was in the jeans. Draggin jeans have always been the most expensive but seemed to have the most sensible kevlar coverage. I haven't seem many other brands but the ones I have seemed to simply be cheaper because they had less kevlar. I've stuck with Draggins so far.

Draggins Jeans have:
a) kevlar on the knees
b) kevlar around the buttocks
c) kevlar along the hips (also to stop the trouser leg tearing off above the knee exposing the knee).

The website mentions the knee and hips but has no mention of the buttocks. But 45% is alot so they may do. Silly that they don't have a diagram to show where the kevlar covers.