First racebike: 2-stroke 150ss, or 4 stroke 250?

[xr-rider]

Daniel Mettam. He's the man! I will be stoked if I can keep up with him round Taupo but sadly the best I can hope for is for his bike not to be working on the day....

you may have a chance. he wasnt that fast on saturday

[avgas]

Well I dont know what you people are doing that would make your RGs so unreliable

38 rwhp.....
Bayride (used to be suzuki) ended up basing their RG racebike on it.

Admittedly I should have had the oil pump looked at. And I did ring the living shit out of it for about 20,000k's - so I can't complain really. Problem was after the work was done the powervalves seemed to only do any decent power after 10,500rpm.........so pretty much all my gear changes were between 10-13,000.......

Mabey Kwaka owners were just nicer to their bikes than I.....

[woodyracer]

you may have a chance. he wasnt that fast on saturday

he's pretty quick for a 13 year old thats for sure!

Im not realy aiming to keep up with him im aiming to beat him
He's deffinitly a good person to race with as me and him have similar lines.

It will be my first time on a ss150 bike so hopefully ill get the hang of it quick as i did with the hyoslut

[Billy]

38 rwhp.....
Bayride (used to be suzuki) ended up basing their RG racebike on it.

Admittedly I should have had the oil pump looked at. And I did ring the living shit out of it for about 20,000k's - so I can't complain really. Problem was after the work was done the powervalves seemed to only do any decent power after 10,500rpm.........so pretty much all my gear changes were between 10-13,000.......

Mabey Kwaka owners were just nicer to their bikes than I.....

Yip,Well that explains it.That engine has obviously had the old 2mm off the top of the cylinder with a 1.3mm spacer under the cylinder to raise the port timing and increase top end power and close the squish up to .8mm.Unfortunately all that does is turn a reliable commuter engine into an unreliable, illegal racebike that is actually harder too ride and slower around a racetrack because it lacks midrange

[quallman1234]

It will be my first time on a ss150 bike so hopefully ill get the hang of it quick as i did with the hyoslut

Stop talking crap, start proving it on the track. If you don't watch it, helen might give you a smashin.

KRR is a very nice bike, good choice. At the speeds of the north island streetstock club scene, either a KR or an RG can win. Its up to the prep (to make sure it goes ring-a-ding-ding) and the guy or girl on top.

[woodyracer]

Stop talking crap, start proving it on the track. If you don't watch it, helen might give you a smashin.

KRR is a very nice bike, good choice. At the speeds of the north island streetstock club scene, either a KR or an RG can win. Its up to the prep (to make sure it goes ring-a-ding-ding) and the guy or girl on top.

im not talking crap, im not like chaos, i always go racing and practicing ect.....

Ive just got to put a front bt39 on the bike and im off racing!!
The bike is well prepared and it sounds good.

What do you think of the aprillia's and cagiva's?

[xr-rider]

he's pretty quick for a 13 year old thats for sure!

Im not realy aiming to keep up with him im aiming to beat him
He's deffinitly a good person to race with as me and him have similar lines.

It will be my first time on a ss150 bike so hopefully ill get the hang of it quick as i did with the hyoslut

yer he is fast. what i was meaning was that his lap times on his rg were about 3-5 seconds slower than during the winter series on the KR

[woodyracer]

yer he is fast. what i was meaning was that his lap times on his rg were about 3-5 seconds slower than during the winter series on the KR

not suprising becuase kawasaki's are just simply better


oh and honda's.....

[Str8 Jacket]

yer he is fast. what i was meaning was that his lap times on his rg were about 3-5 seconds slower than during the winter series on the KR

What you also have to remember is that the KR is alot smaller than an RG so he may have just been getting used to it....The RG is quite a 'whale' compared too other 150's. For example, my FXR is tiny compared to my RG.

[Racey Rider]

Daniel is about that size, he's not a bad little rider. No fear.

Yer we're working on that. If we ever get close enough to him again!

[Pumba]

Yer we're working on that. If we ever get close enough to him again!

The way he got bumped off the track at Auckland buckets last weekend I am thinking there must be quite a few of you

Poor guy was looking a bit unsteady on his feet after that one

[Racey Rider]

Im no expert on them,But the earlier ones with the wire wheels are faster in a straight line than the RGs

If I jet my Standard KR150a in the ball park for the days conditions, I can keep up with the fast guys on Standard RG's

KR150 is nasty. You will have to be super competitive.
WAAAAAYYYY back in 98 when both models 'started' the lineup, not a single KR150 got in the top 10 on the track. Some guys modded to keep up with the RG's.

38 rwhp.....
Bayride (used to be suzuki) ended up basing their RG racebike on it.

Admittedly I should have had the oil pump looked at. And I did ring the living shit out of it for about 20,000k's - so I can't complain really. Problem was after the work was done the powervalves seemed to only do any decent power after 10,500rpm.........so pretty much all my gear changes were between 10-13,000.......

Yip,Well that explains it.That engine has obviously had the old 2mm off the top of the cylinder with a 1.3mm spacer under the cylinder to raise the port timing and increase top end power and close the squish up to .8mm.Unfortunately all that does is turn a reliable commuter engine into an unreliable, illegal racebike that is actually harder too ride and slower around a racetrack because it lacks midrange

and yet we still clap them when they walk up to accept the 1st place trophy.

Is it bad form to put in an official protest, in Streetstock class? I have felt it is.
Isn't it supposed to be a class where we're all friendly and work together?

I would like to see something done in the machinery checks side of things in SS at Vic club.
The club volunteers have enough to do already running the day. So would it be out of order for me (a racer in that class) to offer to team up with another person to get some checks in place? Cause at the moment despite what is said on the entry form, anything goes it seems, as No checks are made.
I know KR150's. AJ knows RG's. We could always check with others should we need to.
We'll make a list 'for discussion' of things that get done, right or wrong... (No Modifications seems to mean different things to different people) then hopefully everyone will know how there bike will be legal before the start of round One.
Racey

[huff3r]

If I jet my Standard KR150a in the ball park for the days conditions, I can keep up with the fast guys on Standard RG's








and yet we still clap them when they walk up to accept the 1st place trophy.

Is it bad form to put in an official protest, in Streetstock class? I have felt it is.
Isn't it supposed to be a class where we're all friendly and work together?

I would like to see something done in the machinery checks side of things in SS at Vic club.
The club volunteers have enough to do already running the day. So would it be out of order for me (a racer in that class) to offer to team up with another person to get some checks in place? Cause at the moment despite what is said on the entry form, anything goes it seems, as No checks are made.
I know KR150's. AJ knows RG's. We could always check with others should we need to.
We'll make a list 'for discussion' of things that get done, right or wrong... (No Modifications seems to mean different things to different people) then hopefully everyone will know how there bike will be legal before the start of round One.
Racey

Sounds like an awesome idea, i'd hate to be entering a series where i was disadvantaged by someone else's "interpretation" of the rules. The BMW Race Series my race-car is built for is having similar issues with people blatantly ignoring the "no modifications" rule...

[Billy]

If I jet my Standard KR150a in the ball park for the days conditions, I can keep up with the fast guys on Standard RG's








and yet we still clap them when they walk up to accept the 1st place trophy.

Is it bad form to put in an official protest, in Streetstock class? I have felt it is.
Isn't it supposed to be a class where we're all friendly and work together?

I would like to see something done in the machinery checks side of things in SS at Vic club.
The club volunteers have enough to do already running the day. So would it be out of order for me (a racer in that class) to offer to team up with another person to get some checks in place? Cause at the moment despite what is said on the entry form, anything goes it seems, as No checks are made.
I know KR150's. AJ knows RG's. We could always check with others should we need to.
We'll make a list 'for discussion' of things that get done, right or wrong... (No Modifications seems to mean different things to different people) then hopefully everyone will know how there bike will be legal before the start of round One.
Racey

Absolutely,Its about time somebody did.In fact Ive already made an offer too the both the Vic club and Pacific club regarding streetstock and part of the proposal was technical checks of random bikes throughout the series.I can tell you for a fact there are atleast 3 bikes in the middle of the pack last year that were NOT standard and if you were too talk to Peter Jones,Im sure hed tell you of atleast 2 bikes that finished in the top 3 in previous years Actrix series that he ended up owning that had been modified as I mentioned in my previous post.

On the subject re protest:If you think somebodys cheating,Then by all means do something about it.Be very careful about how you go about it though as Ive seen it backfire on a number of occassions.I would suggest you read the rulebook and follow it too the letter,Its not just as simple as pointing the finger at a particular machine,You have too be far more precise than that