Separate Maori welfare funding

[h211]

This sort of shit fucks me right off. Its hand out after fucking hand out and nothing ever changes. No matter how much they are given, its never enough. Fuck this country and the people who run it, im out as soon as im done with study. Paying my loan back...yeah fucking right!

[Molly]

How long before white NZ is criticised for dumping Maori problems at the feet of Maori people (first by Sharples when the whole thing goes tits-up)?


Just out of interest I've been looking at the job situation in Austraila. Bet I'm not the only one.

[rphenix]

Maybe there should be a march on Parliament... maybe call it Bro oi. Maybe not.

Probably not! Afterall thats racist! Watching the news tonight "labour" are scared of having a position in case someone thinks they are racist.

"ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL, BUT SOME ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS"

[sAsLEX]

This sort of shit fucks me right off. Its hand out after fucking hand out and nothing ever changes. No matter how much they are given, its never enough. Fuck this country and the people who run it, im out as soon as im done with study. Paying my loan back...yeah fucking right!

Didn't Ngāi Tahu have a full and final settlement a few years back?

And they still were involved in the bribe to get the ETS through?

[gatch]

Just out of interest I've been looking at the job situation in Austraila. Bet I'm not the only one.

You are not the only one, 13 months I've got till my apprentice time is up..

[retro asian]

There is no body more descriminated against (by the system) in this country than us white, able-bodied males. EVERYONE else can claim they are being descriminated against because of Race, sex or handicap. We have no come back.

[steve_t]

If it means the money that is already being spent on maori beneficiaries, is going to be managed by a different body then ok I guess, it is the same shit just wearing a different hat.

If however it means taxpayers have to pay MORE to support Whanau Ora, then the treaty of Waitangi may as we be used as toilet paper and flushed. It still boggles me why all the time and effort has been spent trying to implement this system.

One nation, one people, one flag.

My arse.

So yeah, it's probably just the same old deal with benefits but with Maori board of trustee members or company directors earning a sweet salary funded by the taxpayers.
Treaty of Waitangi promises the maori EQUITY, not EQUALITY...

Thought I would just highlight a portion of the UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS



Article 2.

* Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status.





Article 21.

* (1) Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.
* (2) Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country.
* (3) The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.

Wow, so 'reverse-racism' and race based welfare etc is a breach of the Human Rights Act? Surely someone would lodge a complaint with the Human Rights Commission if this was the case?

[SMOKEU]

That system has already been tried in South Africa .........

Look how well that all turned out!

I'm South African, and you're right, my country is fucked.

[wbks]

I'm South African, and you're right, my country is fucked.

I'm not going to pretend I know what it's like, but just hearing about SA from SA immigrants to NZ and what not... Doesn't this all (in NZ) seem so petty, compared?

I'm chuckling at all the dudes complaining about the events recently in this country as if they care about what's happening to it... But they're fleeing overseas as soon as something happens they don't like. If you love the country, then do something about making it a better place, but don't act as if you give a shit what happens to the country when you are already planning an escape route the moment a separate welfare system is mentioned.

[SMOKEU]

I'm not going to pretend I know what it's like, but just hearing about SA from SA immigrants to NZ and what not... Doesn't this all (in NZ) seem so petty, compared?

South Africa is fucked because there are too many niggas in the country. And if you think I'm a racist prick, then why is EVERY country with a black majority poor?

[wbks]

I'm South African, and you're right, my country is fucked.

South Africa is fucked because there are too many niggas in the country. And if you think I'm a racist prick, then why is EVERY country with a black majority poor?

Hey, I kind of expected it from a south african, like I would from too many australians. I'm not going to judge, I've never been there. I was just saying that race relations in south africa must make these debates of it in NZ seem pretty petty, am I right? And to answer you question, I think it is the result of different environmental resources, which meant africans never got to the industrial stages europeans did, which meant the primal ways of living carried on, which were pretty fucked anyway, and then colonialists come along...

[SMOKEU]

Hey, I kind of expected it from a south african, like I would from too many australians. I'm not going to judge, I've never been there. I was just saying that race relations in south africa must make these debates of it in NZ seem pretty petty, am I right?

You're spot on. It's dangerous over there. Every day there are dozens of murders. It's an all out war; a free-for-all. Where I used to live, I was used to going to sleep with the sound of gun shots echoing thoughout the otherwise quiet hood the whole night. Almost as normal as cars driving past the house.

[wbks]

You're spot on. It's dangerous over there. Every day there are dozens of murders. It's an all out war; a free-for-all. Where I used to live, I was used to going to sleep with the sound of gun shots echoing thoughout the otherwise quiet hood the whole night. Almost as normal as cars driving past the house.

I didn't realise it was that bad in everyday SA! No wonder there have been so many white south africans lately in NZ. Not that I'm complaining, they all seem to be good people. I know it happens in other parts of africa, but are white SA'ers being forced out of their farms and residences by black africans, in any parts of south africa as well?

[kwaka_crasher]

There is a solution. All men, regardless of race, descent, whatever, start breeding with Maori chicks.

The price is too high.

[Dave Lobster]

Maybe there should be a march on Parliament... maybe call it Bro oi. Maybe not.

Would this be on a work day?

Thought I would just highlight a portion of the UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS



Article 2.

* Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status.





Article 21.

* (1) Everyone has the right to take part in the government of his country, directly or through freely chosen representatives.
* (2) Everyone has the right of equal access to public service in his country.
* (3) The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government; this will shall be expressed in periodic and genuine elections which shall be by universal and equal suffrage and shall be held by secret vote or by equivalent free voting procedures.

This doesn't apply if you're white. Human rights are for minority groups and brown people only.

......., and then colonialists come along...

I'm pretty sure white people were the first to colonise south Africa. I may be wrong..