Separate Maori welfare funding

[Genie]

Sold it for a handful of muskets and a signature.

yes and that was over how long ago? So tell me, why does this generation keep paying for the fuck up's of the past!

[Mr Merde]

....... why does this generation keep paying for the fuck up's of the past!

Because we have spent the past 20+ years being told that our ancestors were bad and it is our responsibility to right whatever perceived wrongs they did.

Beit that at the time it was considered a fair and equitable exchange this has nothing to do with how it is perceived by those today who see a chance of making financial gain.

People were not stupid 150 years ago. They could reason and make decisions. We pay because that reasoning is not in keeping with modern thinking and therefore must be by that very fact wrong.

We pay because we dont have the political will to stand up and demand that it stops.

We pay because we can.

[wbks]

Because we have spent the past 20+ years being told that our ancestors were bad and it is our responsibility to right whatever perceived wrongs they did.

Beit that at the time it was considered a fair and equitable exchange this has nothing to do with how it is perceived by those today who see a chance of making financial gain.

People were not stupid 150 years ago. They could reason and make decisions. We pay because that reasoning is not in keeping with modern thinking and therefore must be by that very fact wrong.

We pay because we dont have the political will to stand up and demand that it stops.

We pay because we can.

I think "we" pay because self obsessed politicians are too busy brown nosing trying to ensure they stay in line with the "politically correct, culturally sensitive" viewpoint, so that they don't risk being voted out of parliament or losing public support.

[Genie]

I think "we" pay because self obsessed politicians are too busy brown nosing trying to ensure they stay in line with the "politically correct, culturally sensitive" viewpoint, so that they don't risk being voted out of parliament or losing public support.

"Brown Nosing" pun intended?????

[Dave Lobster]

I think "we" pay because self obsessed politicians are too busy brown nosing trying to ensure they stay in line with the "politically correct, culturally sensitive" viewpoint, so that they don't risk being voted out of parliament or losing public support.

It's a bit fucking late for that!!!

[steve_t]

Well that's a bad promise then isn't it? I don't want any opportunities (that I may have to take up and lose some of my precious "personal time") if I can get that same comfy lifestyle outcome by investing time on my playstation.

Did I mention I wanted the newest playstation... ? Oh and Sky TV please. Equal outcomes after all.

I agree 100%. Blame the monarchy... or better yet, get NZ to become a republic and truly relegate the treaty to the history books.
I always find it funny when they say certain groups are disproportionately over-represented in crime stats and poor health stats. Could it be because these larger proportions of these certain groups are constantly CHOOSING to break into houses and stealing shit? Or choosing to eat unhealthy takeaway food 7 nights a week?

[oldrider]

Listen to the rhythm of the falling rain, listen as it breaks my heart etc etc!

Somehow I think I have read all this here (KB) before!

The nation will go out and return all these political leeches again next time round and argue, fight and defend their right to do it! Result? Same ol same old!

And the beat goes on! ........cynical? yes! Am I right? Unfortunately, Yes!

[Mr Merde]

..... ........cynical? yes! Am I right? Unfortunately, Yes!

Unfortunately a growing number of us are of a similar feeling.

[wbks]

Listen to the rhythm of the falling rain, listen as it breaks my heart etc etc!

Somehow I think I have read all this here (KB) before!

The nation will go out and return all these political leeches again next time round and argue, fight and defend their right to do it! Result? Same ol same old!

And the beat goes on! ........cynical? yes! Am I right? Unfortunately, Yes!

got a better idea?

"Brown Nosing" pun intended?????

Yes, but I also meant what I said in the regular sense of the saying

[ManDownUnder]

got a better idea?

Treaty flambe with a Constitutional chaser

[Maha]

...anyone consider the question it might actually work?

... just chucking it out there. I love the kiwi "IT'LL FAIL!" before it's tried approach. So reliable... and so uplifting now it's Christmas.

Please Ned, not the place to be sensible.

Well that's a bad promise then isn't it? I don't want any opportunities (that I may have to take up and lose some of my precious "personal time") if I can get that same comfy lifestyle outcome by investing time on my playstation.

Did I mention I wanted the newest playstation... ? Oh and Sky TV please. Equal outcomes after all.

You may have to go to prison for that special 'equality' moment.

[ManDownUnder]

You may have to go to prison for that special 'equality' moment.

True - I can't be arsed cooking Christmas dinner. I want Ham and Chick and Turkey and peas and roast veg, all cooked for me, and cleaned up afterwards before retiring to watch Sky telly on the plasma.

Is that available in all the suites or only high security

[avgas]

We still have Maori here?

[Maha]

True - I can't be arsed cooking Christmas dinner. I want Ham and Chick and Turkey and peas and roast veg, all cooked for me, and cleaned up afterwards before retiring to watch Sky telly on the plasma.

Is that available in all the suites or only high security

Cant say I have first hand knowledge of the 'wheres and who knows' within the prison system but what I will say is, ''why the hell would anyone want to escape once inside''?

[wbks]

Treaty flambe with a Constitutional chaser

Maybe that would be better than the lame treaty we have, but I can't shake images of people in 50 years time screaming for the same treatment with the "its un constitutional" line. Whats to say the dickheads/politicians that would make this constitution wouldn't make the same mistakes?