I'm quitting work to go on a sickness benefit

[avgas]

Buddy, if you think the dole is cushy you need to recalibrate.

And the 100's of jobs don't mean shit. I'm presentable and qualified and I'm still not getting hits onSeek/Herald/TM/CareerJet/...etc jobs. If I was some (ex-?) gang member with presentation issues, living outside of a major centre I would stand no hope at all. There is a big ferkin recession on, y'know.

Errr it is cushy......
I was one of those "Recession sackees" who had to find my feet again. I was very presentable and skilled enough to do multiple jobs. Sadly I could not get the dole.
Do you know what its like to live of your life savings? Forget your 3 meals a day for a start - Pasta is $1.39 at its cheapest, usually at a pack'n'save 5km walk away.
You have to save gas for the interviews.
Just looked at my emails - there were 2435 application receipt emails from Seek. Not bad considering I wasn't getting paid for those 3 months I was applying for those jobs. Did 22 interviews. Applied for everything from Directorship to making coffee.

If you think its hard on a small income - try no income.
Personally I think the whole "I'm ex-gang, no one will hire me" is bullshit - I would rather pay for a man on a shovel that one with no spine. Plenty of work out there - just no govt scheme to support it.

[rainman]

Do you know what its like to live of your life savings?

All too well.

[Deano]

I would have thought that some questions needed answering on how Harris was granted money for tyres on 2007 Chrysler and why he was given money for fencing a pool on property that he owned. Like how does a benificary get to won one of these cars??

But oh no let's go after those who are least able to defend themselves.

But she is asking these questions isn't she ?

Least able to defend themselves ? These people make a living out of knowing how to rort the system.

The rorters are not naieve, poor defenseless souls.

I think you're a little deluded.

[Deano]

but the winz are the ones approving this sht. Everyone involved should lose their jobs.

Including the doctors approving sickness benefits for drug addiction. Addicted to cannabis my arse.

As for the rorters out there - they obviously consider the benefit option lifestyle choice IS a cushier option than working for your money eh.

[eelracing]

ACC increase for motorcycles - remember that? Remember your reaction? Motorcyclists shouldn't be singled out, its unfair etc etc. Mean while all the other ACC premiums went up and not a word.

All Paula is doing is using the politicians divide and conquer by press releasing extreme cases of benefit rort as an excuse to cut benefits, just because the very vast majority of beneficeries make do with the bare minimun doesn't come into it. What should be investigated is WINZ itself for allowing these extreme cases to happen, they already have the so called proper guidelines in place.

And you'll find that out if you ever have the bad luck to be made redundant that getting the benefit and what you think your entitled to isn't easy.

And lastly - what a caring government, the countrys still in recession, people still being made redundant so what do they do- bring on the good old National Govts favourite sport- Benefit bashing.

Wake up NZ your being played again...Just thought this post was worth repeating.

[Skyryder]

But she is asking these questions isn't she ?

Least able to defend themselves ? These people make a living out of knowing how to rort the system.

The rorters are not naieve, poor defenseless souls.

I think you're a little deluded.

If Bennet was refering to the rorters I'd agree with you but she is not.

She wants to apply the 12 month reapplication to all those who have been on a benefit for twelve months. No one has asked the costing of this. I doubt if Bennet if the Nats will raise the the dollars to cover the extra cost so expect to see a reduction in benefit levels either by way of stand down time or payments. We still have rising unemployment. So much for Keys granstanding on the Job Summit. Seasonal employment is less than other years.

Bennet has seized upon the Harris rort as an excuse for a bit of good old fashioned benefit bashing.


Skyryder

[Skyryder]

That family has been on the benefit so long that WINZ will have to pay them redundancy.
Probably put a farewell on for them, too

Skyryder

[Skyryder]

Wake up NZ your being played again...Just thought this post was worth repeating.

Yes. And the other thing that has conveniantly been forgotton is that when Smith first started mouthing on about ACC being in the red most on here believed him. Smith merely applied the 'lie' and waited to see the reaction. Not only did most on here accept his version of ACC's financial position without question so too did most of the country.




Skyryder

[Tank]

If Bennet was refering to the rorters I'd agree with you but she is not.

She wants to apply the 12 month reapplication to all those who have been on a benefit for twelve months. ....

Bennet has seized upon the Harris rort as an excuse for a bit of good old fashioned benefit bashing.

For unemployment benefit: Fuck the 12 months - it should be reviewed every 3 months. If they dont have a job they should be made to do mandatory community service.

Yep - shock to some - but actually contributing to soceity in a positive manner.


pfft on benefit bashing - they are getting $$$$ for fuck all - they should be accountable to the tax payer for that. A yearly review is fuck all to have to do.

[Kickaha]

Bullshit.

It doesn't run long enough to wear the tyres it's got out.

Not to different from owning an MVX then

Including the doctors approving sickness benefits for drug addiction. Addicted to cannabis my arse.

The Doctor that gave that assessment was one of Work and Income's "designated doctors" though

The opinion was from one of Work and Income's "designated doctors" after the agency appealed against a medical opinion that Harris was suffering from "stress and anxiety" over being work-tested.

The designated-doctor scheme was introduced this year in a bid to curb the growing number of sickness beneficiaries listing drug and alcohol abuse as the primary reason for being unable to work, which is up 17 per cent on 3842 last year.

[MIXONE]

Does anyone here know the family involved?
I have had dealings with them and they are one scarey family.
I sure as fuck wouldn't want to deliver the news that their dole had been cut.

[Maki]

"Among the successful applications were grants to put new tyres on the couple's 2007 silver Chrysler saloon"

The people responsible for keeping this system going are just as guilty as those who rip it off. To get anything out of the system you should be obliged to spend 8 hours of day at a given location, NOT your home. If you can work you work. If you can't you just sit there. The surroundings should be drab, boring and uncomfortable. People would get themselves off the dole soon enough if the system was like that.

[Tank]

I sure as fuck wouldn't want to deliver the news that their dole had been cut.

Should be delivered by bullet.

[wbks]

Whats so bad about the family?

[SPman]

Stop making it so cushy and give them more of a incentive to get out and find some jobs. Last time i checked The Herald and Seek were still advertising 100's of jobs

So you have been married with a family, unable to get a job,and on the unemployment benefit for how long? Cushy! A word bandied about by those with a low level of expectations and who really haven't got a fucking clue!

People would get themselves off the dole soon enough if the system was like that.

Most people do get themselves off the dole as soon as possible, but, there's more to be made in bashing the 10% who don't and applying the doings of the worst, to tar the majority!
Typical Paula B - pick a case like the Harris scumbags and somehow imply, this is normal.......