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    And when like me at the time asks,can you fund my application for forklift endorsement,class 4 licence $1450 or so from salvation army,can do over 1 week they say nah to expensive,seems if I was 18-24yrs,uneducated,and ethnic I'd be fine,but being edumacated,white and over 40,no go.Even offered to pay back,had written letters saying if I had these licences I'd have temporary work straight away,which would goto full time according to recruitment agency and private employers who I rang.
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    Has anyone mentioned that this family also won first division lotto in the early 90"s
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murray View Post
    Good Call Tank - whose "drip feeding" the public now Mr Skyryder!!!
    Both you and Tank conveniantly miss my point. No sooner had Bonnie Avery got some media attention, dismissed grant.............gets granted.

    Bennet has leaped on the Harris rort for some good old fashioned benifit bashing.


    I would have thought that some questions needed answering on how Harris was granted money for tyres on 2007 Chrysler and why he was given money for fencing a pool on property that he owned. Like how does a benificary get to won one of these cars??

    But oh no let's go after those who are least able to defend themselves.

    Good one Paula.


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    Quote Originally Posted by merv View Post
    How come Kick do you need some tyres for your Chrysler now too?
    No but I do need tyres for my MHR though, maybe I can get a special grant
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    No but I do need tyres for my MHR though, maybe I can get a special grant
    Just apply for a new 1198R Baylis.... they come with new tyres
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pussy View Post
    Just apply for a new 1198R Baylis.... they come with new tyres
    rubber band rubbish, wouldn't piss on one to put it out if it was on fire

    I was actually on a benefit once about 24 years ago for three months, I even let them know they'd overpaid me and paid them back the excess, obviously that's not the way to do it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    Information obtained by The Press shows Marcia Harris and her husband, former gang leader Darryl Harris, have claimed unemployment and sickness benefits continuously since 1984.
    So my question, to all of the governments of the previous 25 years, is: why have you not fixed this?

    Quote Originally Posted by peasea View Post
    Why the blazes haven't they done this before?
    Exactly.

    Quote Originally Posted by pc220 View Post
    Yet when someone who works all their life hits a bit of a rough patch and approaches WINZ, they get nothing until all ther assets are gone and are in an even worse position and even more dependant on welfare.
    Too true. I've been out of regular work since the middle of the year, and find there's not a lot of call for the stuff I can do in the present economy. My wife is a teacher, so I'm not entitled to any financial assistance from WINZ (not particularly keen on that anyway) - but I have called them and asked what help they could provide me in a) finding work, or b) retraining to be more employable. They have basically zero interest in this, and have told me to come back when my wife's contract ends and we run out of leave pay etc. (Which won't be too long, tbh - we live a modest life but are poor immigrants, and also have had some extraordinary overseas expenses of late).

    There's a structural incentive in the way WINZ works for me to spend up the meager savings we have until we're under the threshold so that they'll pay our mortgage etc, then sit back and get them to fund some retraining. (The rational economic decision is for my wife not to work, either, we'll almost get more in benefits and supplements than she can make as a teacher). I'm not very comfortable with this, to say the least, so doubt it will come to that. They just don't seem to have any interest in the W in WINZ - I'm keen to work, and am applying for everything that even vaguely looks like I can do it, but there are bugger-all jobs... my track record so far is two interviews and one short contract, in six months. Despite my cautious financial approach, that ain't gonna pay the mortgage.

    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessBandit View Post
    I'm sure this family are by no means the only ones doing this.
    Not sure how you can be "sure" about that.

    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessBandit View Post
    ..."Time-limited benefits were proposed by former National Party leader Don Brash
    Time limited benefits will achieve nothing but an increase in admin. Some people will need, for legitimate reasons, to stay on a benefit for longer than a year. The policy changes required need to be based around willingness to work, and the validity of the medical grounds for sickness benefits - providing of course that people who genuinely can't work aren't screwed over.

    Quote Originally Posted by avgas View Post
    I still think they should go back to meal ticket system

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    I know of 1 family in auckland. House is worth $900K (they paid cash) - they also have 4 rental homes, currently getting overseas retirement pay, and NZ unemployment benefit, and working a cash job. Probably pulling back about 400K a year mabey more.
    WINZ sends their statement advice to their house.....every house in this street has a CV of over 800K.
    Meal tickets not a silly idea, but I suspect would lead to more admin; people do not all have equivalent circumstances.

    So what's stopping you dobbing them in? The welfare system is not a bad thing in itself, in fact it's a bloody good thing - but crooks are crooks and need to get what's coming to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subike View Post
    Has anyone mentioned that this family also won first division lotto in the early 90"s
    Or that it would be a pretty ballsy reporter that would knock on their door. gang connections? They were the gang...

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    ACC increase for motorcycles - remember that? Remember your reaction? Motorcyclists shouldn't be singled out, its unfair etc etc. Mean while all the other ACC premiums went up and not a word. All Paula is doing is using the politicians divide and conquer by press releasing extreme cases of benefit rort as an excuse to cut benefits, just because the very vast majority of beneficeries make do with the bare minimun doesn't come into it. What should be investigated is WINZ itself for allowing these extreme cases to happen, they already have the so called proper guidelines in place. And you'll find that out if you ever have the bad luck to be made redundant that getting the benefit and what you think your entitled to isn't easy.And lastly - what a caring government, the countrys still in recession, people still being made redundant so what do they do- bring on the good old National Govts favourite sport- Benefit bashing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pussy View Post
    That family has been on the benefit so long that WINZ will have to pay them redundancy.
    Probably put a farewell on for them, too
    Now that's funny!

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    The thing is though, he has done nothing illegal. Dont get me wrong, its a fucking mess like most things that are government run and it infuriates me to the point where I want to smash my own computer, but the winz are the ones approving this sht. Everyone involved should lose their jobs.
    It's not that I'm lazy, it's that I just don't care.

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    As mentioned previously, why not pay the dole/benefit using vouchers, food (vouchers that cannot be redeemed for tobacco or alcohol), petrol, rates etc and then maybe $10 a week cash for a entertainment aspect. Stop making it so cushy and give them more of a incentive to get out and find some jobs. Last time i checked The Herald and Seek were still advertising 100's of jobs

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    Quote Originally Posted by brendonjw View Post
    Stop making it so cushy and give them more of a incentive to get out and find some jobs. Last time i checked The Herald and Seek were still advertising 100's of jobs
    Buddy, if you think the dole is cushy you need to recalibrate.

    And the 100's of jobs don't mean shit. I'm presentable and qualified and I'm still not getting hits onSeek/Herald/TM/CareerJet/...etc jobs. If I was some (ex-?) gang member with presentation issues, living outside of a major centre I would stand no hope at all. There is a big ferkin recession on, y'know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    No but I do need tyres for my MHR though, maybe I can get a special grant
    Bullshit.

    It doesn't run long enough to wear the tyres it's got out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Motig View Post
    bring on the good old National Govts favourite sport- Benefit bashing.
    Errrr hate to state the obvious - but if your removed the benefits, this would mean National would have nothing to do.
    I'm no national supporter or anything, but if labour was adamant they were going to defeat National on this the answers are obvious:
    - Fix it
    or
    - Dump it
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