Boycott The Radio Nework for supporting domestic violence

**James Deuce** · 23rd December 2009, 21:05

Originally Posted by rustic101

Hitcher stated on one thread about a bike being pusher that, that, matter was before the Courts, and as a Mod would delete the respective threads if talk/blogging what ever continued [or words to that effect]...

He/She then presents on the Veitch thread berating the guy etc.

In my view that is hypocritical, therefore it is 'my personal belief' that Hitcher is a Hipocrite!!!

Further to this as a if KB were serious about their site they would not allow Moderators to comment - It is protocol to be impartial.

What? KB faces legal action if the identity of the bike pusher is published prior to the case, and Frosty's case against him is dead in the water if that happens.

Saying that Veitch is an odious piece of crap is in no way hypocritical and you're reaching in the extreme trying to connect the two. Neither KB nor Hitcher faces legal action for pointing out that Tony Veitch's target audience is likely to be comprised of a demographic that ranges from secretly supportive to openly celebratory of Mr Veitch's attempt to define the position of women in NZ as an easily silenced mobile punching bag, subservient to his "career". I don't remember it being illegal to object to someone of demonstrably dubious character being given a position of supposed public import. It isn;t illegal for him to try and re-establish his "career" either, but I wouldn't advertise during his segment lest me and my product be lumped in with the wife bashers.

Moderators are bikers and posters too. Are you suggesting that moderators aren't allowed to have opinions about anything at all? How is that in any way fair for a time intensive volunteer job? There's no money, no contract. I'm not following your line of reasoning at all. The post in Frosty's thread was clearly identified as "official moderator business". The post in this thread was Hitcher's opinion about Tony Veitch.

**Hitcher** · 23rd December 2009, 21:08

Originally Posted by rustic101

Go and get a soap box.

People in NZ have done far worse and wander around reoffending. This guy no matter how much of a prat he was, is entitled like all the other scum to a second chance.

You appear to be a hypocrite. I just finished reading a post you placed as a Mod stating we must uphold and respect what is before the Courts! Yet you berate this guy with no respect for other laws of NZ.

You are not able to have your cake and eat it too. As a moderator at least be consistant!!!

I have a soapbox. I am standing on it. You appear to be either an idiot or a troll. It's Christmas, so I'll let you choose which.

**Hitcher** · 23rd December 2009, 21:10

Originally Posted by Oakie

He's admitted the crime, society has had it's pound of flesh and then some. Time to move on.

Tony Veitch trades on his celebrity. I think that that currency is largely worthless, pound of flesh or otherwise. If he was an accountant, I wouldn't give a shit.

**Kickaha** · 23rd December 2009, 21:10

Originally Posted by Hitcher

I have a soapbox. I am standing on it. You appear to be either an idiot or a troll. It's Christmas, so I'll let you choose which.

50/50 call, I'm going for idiot myself

**pc220** · 23rd December 2009, 21:24

Ah fuck it you either listen to him on the radio or you dont,simple. No need to get all wound up over it.

**Hitcher** · 23rd December 2009, 21:56

Originally Posted by pc220

Ah fuck it you either listen to him on the radio or you dont,simple. No need to get all wound up over it.

Just like there's no need to wound up about a convicted pedophile living next to a school if your kids don't go there?

**Slicksta** · 23rd December 2009, 23:58

Originally Posted by Hitcher

Just like there's no need to wound up about a convicted pedophile living next to a school if your kids don't go there?

Sorry hitcher fail to see how that is remotely relevant.

Are you saying that being a media broadcaster tempts you to commit acts of violence against your spouse/partner?

**James Deuce** · 24th December 2009, 00:15

Originally Posted by Slicksta

Sorry hitcher fail to see how that is remotely relevant.

Are you saying that being a media broadcaster tempts you to commit acts of violence against your spouse/partner?

No. It can be seen to legitimise other people who perform acts of violence against their partner. I think you've completely missed the point. Why is it OK for people to complain about a paedophile living next to a school, when domestic violence is hidden, covered up, and then excused. Why shouldn't people take a dim view of that? Why do you think domestic violence is OK but paedophilia isn't?

More importantly, it can be seen to legitimise violent men with no remorse and a good line to the media for the carefully scripted public acting out of remorse after being busted.

**Winston001** · 24th December 2009, 00:44

Originally Posted by Headbanger

I think he's a fucktard, And that was before he smacked his bitch up and then tried to worm his way out of it.

So no, I won't be wasting my time by listening to him "work".

Agreed. Always thought he was a smart arse and didn't rate him as a sports journalist.

I certainly won't be listening to him.

**Slicksta** · 24th December 2009, 06:09

Originally Posted by James Deuce

No. It can be seen to legitimise other people who perform acts of violence against their partner. I think you've completely missed the point. Why is it OK for people to complain about a paedophile living next to a school, when domestic violence is hidden, covered up, and then excused. Why shouldn't people take a dim view of that? Why do you think domestic violence is OK but paedophilia isn't?

More importantly, it can be seen to legitimise violent men with no remorse and a good line to the media for the carefully scripted public acting out of remorse after being busted.

Again i cant see your logic here hell why not make all crimes on the same level, to me a man wandering around and raping children is far worse than a man hitting a woman. Trying to put them on the same level is just wrong.

How do you know this man has no remorse? Who are you to judge that? do you know him personally? If he never hit a woman again his whole life would you still say he was unrepentant?

**pc220** · 24th December 2009, 06:22

Originally Posted by Hitcher

Just like there's no need to wound up about a convicted pedophile living next to a school if your kids don't go there?

Dont mean to be rude Mr Hitcher but you seem to have strayed off topic. All i was saying is that he is just going to be a small annoying voice on the wireless, you can either choose to listen to it and get all wound up or just stay tuned to The Rock. Would you prefer he milked the benifit system claiming to be too stressed to work?.

**James Deuce** · 24th December 2009, 06:23

He broke her back and left her permanently disabled. I'm intrigued and really want to know why violence and particularly domestic violence is OK in NZ. I wouldn't be happy having a man capable of inflicting that level of violence on anyone living next to me.

It's pretty easy to tell a remorseful response from a craven response. You man up and turn yourself in and get help, which may include a prison sentence. Your employer removes you from your high profile job pending the court case instead of supporting your domestic violence and helping you hide it. He tried to buy her silence. Again, I'm intrigued to try and understand why it is OK beat someone so badly they have permanent issues to deal with and then try to buy their silence. That isn't remorse. That's an attempt to maintain career and social standing at any cost. The subsequent "look at me" suicide attempts were pathetic and broached the barrier between genuinely worrying bahaviour and low farce.

My argument is based in trying to understand why sections of the NZ public aren't reviled by the vicious beating this lowlife dealt out to to a woman lying on the floor. Is it because she didn't honour the agreement to not dob him in, or is it because you can identify with the desire to beat your partner to a pulp? I don't know how else to phrase the question because I personally think that Tony Veitch is representative of a bigger problem throughout NZ society and publicly rehabilitating him serves no purpose. There are many job options availble to a journalist that don't involve a public persona.

**Slicksta** · 24th December 2009, 06:33

Originally Posted by James Deuce

He broke her back and left her permanently disabled. I'm intrigued and really want to know why violence and particularly domestic violence is OK in NZ. I wouldn't be happy having a man capable of inflicting that level of violence on anyone living next to me.

It's pretty easy to tell a remorseful response from a craven response. You man up and turn yourself in and get help, which may include a prison sentence. Your employer removes you from your high profile job pending the court case instead of supporting your domestic violence and helping you hide it. He tried to buy her silence. Again, I'm intrigued to try and understand why it is OK beat someone so badly they have permanent issues to deal with and then try to buy their silence. That isn't remorse. That's an attempt to maintain career and social standing at any cost. The subsequent "look at me" suicide attempts were pathetic and broached the barrier between genuinely worrying bahaviour and low farce.

My argument is based in trying to understand why sections of the NZ public aren't reviled by the vicious beating this lowlife dealt out to to a woman lying on the floor. Is it because she didn't honour the agreement to not dob him in, or is it because you can identify with the desire to beat your partner to a pulp? I don't know how else to phrase the question because I personally think that Tony Veitch is representative of a bigger problem throughout NZ society and publicly rehabilitating him serves no purpose. There are many job options availble to a journalist that don't involve a public persona.

If you got that I think domestic violence is ok then you would be wrong I never said that at all

I dont see how putting him in the public eye again is going to say to NZ that domestic violence is ok.

**peasea** · 24th December 2009, 07:17

Originally Posted by James Deuce

He broke her back and left her permanently disabled. I'm intrigued and really want to know why violence and particularly domestic violence is OK in NZ. I wouldn't be happy having a man capable of inflicting that level of violence on anyone living next to me.

It's pretty easy to tell a remorseful response from a craven response. You man up and turn yourself in and get help, which may include a prison sentence. Your employer removes you from your high profile job pending the court case instead of supporting your domestic violence and helping you hide it. He tried to buy her silence. Again, I'm intrigued to try and understand why it is OK beat someone so badly they have permanent issues to deal with and then try to buy their silence. That isn't remorse. That's an attempt to maintain career and social standing at any cost. The subsequent "look at me" suicide attempts were pathetic and broached the barrier between genuinely worrying bahaviour and low farce.

I agree; the word 'remorse' isn't in Tony V's vocabulary, whereas 'skullduggery' and 'deceit' are. His actions after the assault speak volumes about him and I also got whiff of rodent when his employers' actions came to light. I wouldn't begrudge him getting a job in radio or television, just not at the front line. Sweeping floors perhaps? Ideally he should be forced to work for a minimum wage caring for the permanently disabled but he would probably struggle with the requirements of 'caring'. (For anyone other than himself, that is.)

He's done his dash in my books when it comes to enjoying a high-profile, high-salaried position and anyone or any company that puts him back in such a position will, in my view, be stooping to his level.