Spelling and grammer

[Tink]

Ok just read some posts on here, and I have to say I am tired of people commenting on the lack of spelling and grammer some people have on this site.

Not everyone is literate
Not everyone can go thru the school system a A student or even B
Not everyone gets it with their brain...their hands are the education
So be a little kinder, and just read the thread, if you don't understand what they are getting at pm them.

Its just polite not to pick on people.

And to top that off.... friends son failed school, but now is a top apprentice mechanic for a dude that deals with hot rods... and doing fantastically.

Tis xmas you know... be kind!

[Tank]

Indeed - However so many kids are so far from being able to write something that can be understood.

Pull them up on it. Give them shit.

I hate to put Dean up as a great example - but the kids post were some of the worst on here.

We could tell he was typing shit - but just could not understand what he was typing.

Over the time he has been on here he was given a ton of crap about it.

Now - whilst he still types shit in quantities that still amaze and astound - you can at least understand them and tell what he is going on about.

So tough love works - as long as the person on the end is willing to take a little time and effort (and Dean at least did that - and deserves credit for it).

[Slyer]

We are just encouraging people to try harder. If we settle for anything less spelling will just continue to deteriorate...

By the way, it's "Grammar".

[zeocen]

Grammar*

I left school half way through 7th form and failed every subject, every year, up until that time. English was one of my worst subjects.

However, with a little common sense and effort I managed to become the coherant and somewhat literate person I am today. Even my job requires me to be extremely precise on grammar and spelling.

If a stupid kid from South Auckland can manage to put some time aside to learn how to spell the words he says every day then anyone can - to not do so is just pure laziness.

[Tink]

Indeed - However so many kids are so far from being able to write something that can be understood.

Pull them up on it. Give them shit.

I hate to put Dean up as a great example - but the kids post were some of the worst on here.

We could tell he was typing shit - but just could not understand what he was typing.

Over the time he has been on here he was given a ton of crap about it.

Now - whilst he still types shit in quantities that still amaze and astound - you can at least understand them and tell what he is going on about.

So tough love works - as long as the person on the end is willing to take a little time and effort (and Dean at least did that - and deserves credit for it).

Sure tough love... and saying something politely, pm ing etc... but posting outright that he sounded like a idiot is not on... I have also had friends shoot themselves (fact), because of they were they were treated in life by relatives... its just a be wary attitude of what you say... in Deans case I don't know... but no one deserves a beating up about it.

[Tink]

We are just encouraging people to try harder. If we settle for anything less spelling will just continue to deteriorate...

By the way, it's "Grammar".

Grammar*

I left school half way through 7th form and failed every subject, every year, up until that time. English was one of my worst subjects.

However, with a little common sense and effort I managed to become the coherant and somewhat literate person I am today. Even my job requires me to be extremely precise on grammar and spelling.

If a stupid kid from South Auckland can manage to put some time aside to learn how to spell the words he says every day then anyone can - to not do so is just pure laziness.

so its obvious I am not a top speller..and I never will be (geordie spells for me) you don't get my point... some people no matter how hard they try, just don't improve.

[Tink]

In plain english... its how one is going about trying to educate the illiterate ... !!!

[zeocen]

No, I don't think you understand.
I was terrible at spelling and grammar, I'm also dyslexic so that made it equally as hard for me to figure out this crazy English thing. It was also the centre of hilarity and abuse from my friends and other people, I didn't like this, so I decided to actually put in some effort rather than feel defeated before even trying properly.

I don't want to blow my own horn, but I'm going to anyway! Because I truly was one of the worst. I couldn't even form proper sentences, and because of the ol' dyslexia, I couldn't get simple things like I and E around the correct way.

However, with a bit of effort I managed to become fairly literate and continue to expand my vocabulary day to day. Now I work in law and that provides me with challenges on words I have never heard before, and I love it, all it took was a little effort and dedication on my part to become a better person and everything fell into place. It can be said for any aspect of our lives, just this time, for me it was spelling and grammar.

There is no such thing as, "I can't." If you think that then the argument is already over and you've defeated yourself!

[The Everlasting]

Agreed,some people have a superiority complex.

I realise not everyone is able to spell/write properly,I'm not bothered by it,as long as I can read it..

[Slyer]

They will learn by example, by the magnificentness of my posts.
By far the best way to learn to spell is to read, read and read some more. Also, get a new browser if yours does not automatically spellcheck for you.

[Tink]

No, I don't think you understand.
I was terrible at spelling and grammar, I'm also dyslexic so that made it equally as hard for me to figure out this crazy English thing.

I don't want to blow my own horn, but I'm going to anyway! Because I truly was one of the worst. I couldn't even form proper sentences, and because of the ol' dyslexia, I couldn't get simple things like I and E around the correct way.

However, with a bit of effort I managed to become fairly literate and continue to expand my vocabulary day to day. Now I work in law and that provides me with challenges on words I have never heard before, and I love it, all it took was a little effort and dedication on my part to become a better person and everything fell into place. It can be said for any aspect of our lives, just this time, for me it was spelling and grammar.

There is no such thing as, "I can't." If you think that then the argument is already over and you've defeated yourself!

Fantastic then your one of the achievers I am impressed!

I work with dyslexic children every day... I know how hard it is for them.. and we have the best book this planet can offer to teach them, one of my students is doing fantastically thanks to the efforts in encouragement and positivity from myself and his teachers, and this book. I understand you completely... I just think laziness is not always the thing... plus typing is not a nack... I type way too fast.

[Virago]

I think you need to differentiate between the illiterate and the lazy. There are a few people who really struggle, but a lot more who simply choose the lazy way to write. No capitals or punctuation, no sentence or paragraph construction, txt spk nd l33t.

The irritation expressed on this site reflects society's aversion to such self-indulgent laziness, which was even encouraged (albeit briefly) by our "education system".

[Slyer]

Fantastic then your one of the achievers I am impressed!

I work with dyslexic children every day... I know how hard it is for them.. and we have the best book this planet can offer to teach them, one of my students is doing fantastically thanks to the efforts in encouragement and positivity from myself and his teachers, and this book. I understand you completely... I just think laziness is not always the thing... plus typing is not a nack... I type way too fast.

You are not the problem, there are far worse offenders on here.

Also, l33tsp34k is even harder to write, Virago.

[jrandom]

Not everyone is literate... Its just polite not to pick on people.

*wipes tears from eyes*

Actually, I've often wondered what it'd be like to be stupid. Would one be aware of it? Is it like being fat, or crippled?

Or is there just a sort of dim, pervasive bliss?

[XRVrider]

Sure tough love... and saying something politely, pm ing etc... but posting outright that he sounded like a idiot is not on... I have also had friends shoot themselves (fact), because of they were they were treated in life by relatives... its just a be wary attitude of what you say... in Deans case I don't know... but no one deserves a beating up about it.

No you're right, shouldnt beat em up... just a verbal slap, and a correction, thats how peeps realise they have made a mistake. It certainly dont mean you have to play superman off something really tall.

Everyone can write to some degree, but poor effort with spelling is weak. Computers have spell checkers and help you stop looking like an idiot, takes 2 seconds to use. We read papers, magazines, internet, so have ample opportunity to see how its done, I mean, a wee bit of effort and we all should be able to write a half way readable post.