Blood & Organ Donation

**georgedubyabush** · 9th November 2003, 19:44

Anyone see the program on plasticisation (or whatever) on Discovery channel?

When you die all skin and connective tissue is removed, and water is withdrawn and replaced with polymer (?). You basically become a big plastic anatomical sculpture for Medical schools etc.

Big in Germany apparantly

**Sharkey** · 10th November 2003, 06:28

Ahh those Germans.

I know my folks want to give themselves to the med school, but their wishes amy not be granted. Like most things in the public service there is a waiting list to give yourself to medical science. Too many people wanting the governments services. Does seem somehow backwards though.

**Gixxer** · 10th November 2003, 09:41

Originally posted by Sharkey
And Gixxer, Jesus made it pretty clear to the Jews that he was God in the flesh. Believing that fact is basically the crux of Christianity. The trinity is very confusing, and I find the whole concept numbs my brain.

Ah ha, never knew that, hear all this stuff about jesus christ son of god? so what is the deal with the JW, I looked on the net but could not find anything about what they believe. and are they the ones with the 'only the first 10,000 peps go to heaven' seems to me that it is a waste of time following that religon as you aint going to heaven.

confirmed with the missus on my wishes to donate.

**Sharkey** · 10th November 2003, 11:50

Originally posted by Gixxer
so what is the deal with the JW

The biggie is that they deny that Jesus is God. They base this on a passage in the bible emphasising Jesus humanity, while ignoring the many scriptures claiming his God-ness. It is difficult to comprehend, but the Bible makes it quite clear that Jesus was all man and all God. Tricky mental gymnastics for us mortals.

Also, you're right. JW's believe in the doctrine of 144,000 in heaven. This comes from a passage talking about 12000 people from each of the 12 tribes of Israel - 12 x 12000 = 144000. I understand that when membership of their organisation exceeded this number thay faced a quandry which they solved by saying that 144 000 people would go to heaven, but the rest would exist on a perfect, re-created earth. There are some rather hilarious illustrations of this place in some of their literature.

I found some convuluted and difficult to understand information rebutting JW doctrine at http://www.evangelicaloutreach.org/jwbeliefs.htm

**duckman** · 10th November 2003, 12:30

waa waa waa waa waa *screeching of brakes* *doors slamming*

Open up!! it's the

Police.

**Goddess of Goof** · 19th November 2003, 00:21

hey most posts seem to be in favour of it all.

I'm totally spooked by the subject and honestly admit, I hate the thought. Gave blood once, as I have a blood-type they always seem to need. It was an awful feeling - I felt something more was taken than simply my blood. Organs ? Nah, can't bear to think about it - I mean, its totally against Nature isn't it?

I read about a woman who had a transplant of something from a young guy, she was a health nut and mostly vegetarian. And after a few months, she felt this huge longing for a meat pie and a coca cola. She just HAD to go and eat some, and did, and hated it, but still did. There was that guy in Australia, who had someone's hand transplanted, and eventually asked for it to be removed, he felt so wrong.

And that article in the New Zealand Herald last week about the face transplants freaked me out. I was horrified. I mean, what if the transplanted persons face felt like foreign tissue to you, and you hated it, and could feel the spiritual presence of the other person in your facial skin? Worse, it would be irreversible........ and you would have someone else's diploid chromosomes and dna living off you forever.

spooky. wrong. "shudder"

**Goddess of Goof** · 19th November 2003, 00:34

....... and my avatar proudly proclaims "Toughness is a quality of the Mind"

well, obviously I'm not tough enough on this subject....

**Gixxer** · 21st November 2003, 11:14

I saw that thing on face transplants, pretty freaky, what is the world coming too.

stiill, i could end up with some real good looking guys face, could be a bonus.

**aff-man** · 21st November 2003, 11:29

Or a bad looking womans

**riffer** · 21st November 2003, 12:35

The big trouble is, they could stick a beautiful face over my ugly old bone structure.

Probably still look the same.

**Slim** · 27th July 2004, 13:30

I'm off to give Platelets again. Thought I'd bump this up to the top for further comment.

**Mongoose** · 27th July 2004, 14:49

Is it not one of thiose moral things, we do have morals, dont we??, that as a biker you are in one of the catagories most likely to need a blood transfusion there fore we should all give blood.Thats my logic in being a regular blood donor anyways

**vifferman** · 27th July 2004, 15:08

Originally Posted by Mongoose

Is it not one of thiose moral things, we do have morals, dont we??, that as a biker you are in one of the catagories most likely to need a blood transfusion there fore we should all give blood.Thats my logic in being a regular blood donor anyways

Good logic, that, Mongoose, and it's what first made me decide to be a donor, after being scraped off the road for the first time, back on Christmas Day 1975. (Word of caution: never choose Christmas day as a day to smash yourself up - the hospital staff seem to take it as a personal affront.)

It did take a few years before I actually got around to donating blood, but I've been a semi-regular supplier and donated many gallons since the firstest time (which I still remember. Not fondly. Even though it wasn't as bad as I'd imagined. And not too bad given the nursey was practising on me. Even though she stuck the needle right through the vein and out the other side, my arm didn't develop TOO bad a haematoma. And I found the pain bearable....)

Must be about time I actually got some blood back, given that I've banked heaps and never collected even the interest on it...

**Firefight** · 27th July 2004, 15:21

Good on you Slim, for refreshing this post, my views already recorded eariler in the thread, however I had a nice father daughter moment two weeks ago, my youngest daughter (also a KBer) and I gave together, it was her first donation.she had been nagging me for two years to do it, her choice.

Firefight.