Blood & Organ Donation

[KATWYN]

some groups calling themselves christians there are those that won't accept blood donations (Jehovahs Witnesses) because of their take on a certain scripture that says it's wrong to drink blood; ;

Yawn, I don't want to get into religeous discussion but will add my 2 c worth
on the blood & organ issue. (*whispers so Zed can't hear* )

I am a Jehovahs Witness so won't have blood if I have an accident - so i'm
probably screwed as far as that goes (joke).

Witnesses will do ANYTHING possible using whatever medical technology
is available to stay alive. A saline expander works great so i'm aware, but
it is the surgeons experience at non blood surgery that has the biggest effect if you are lucky to get one that does it

I have organ donation on my licence though. Cos I can donate organs that
don't require blood in surgery - I think??

[Ms Piggy]

Is it not one of thiose moral things, we do have morals, dont we??, that as a biker you are in one of the catagories most likely to need a blood transfusion there fore we should all give blood.Thats my logic in being a regular blood donor anyways

Yeah I agree with ya Mongoose. I'm a blood donor when I can be and an organ domor as well. Heck I aint gonna need them when I'm gone!

[Coldkiwi]

Yawn, I don't want to get into religeous discussion but will add my 2 c worth
on the blood & organ issue. (*whispers so Zed can't hear* )

I am a Jehovahs Witness so won't have blood if I have an accident - so i'm
probably screwed as far as that goes (joke).

Witnesses will do ANYTHING possible using whatever medical technology
is available to stay alive. A saline expander works great so i'm aware, but
it is the surgeons experience at non blood surgery that has the biggest effect if you are lucky to get one that does it

I have organ donation on my licence though. Cos I can donate organs that
don't require blood in surgery - I think??

Hey Katwyn. I'm a little confused as to how you manage your beliefs in event of an accident that might render you unconcious and unable to tell the doctor what you want. Is there some process the emergency crew have to go through to find out if doing an emergency blood transfusion is ok with you without actually asking you or will they just go ahead and do it? I would think there would be a very small percentage of occurances where this might be an issue but if you were unconcious, how would they know?
.. but if its ok to have a blood transfusion to save your life if you didn't know it was happening.... errr... well, i think we'll need to move it to the religious banter thread!

[KATWYN]

Hey Katwyn. I'm a little confused as to how you manage your beliefs in event of an accident that might render you unconcious and unable to tell the doctor what you want. .. but if its ok to have a blood transfusion to save your life if you didn't know it was happening.... errr... well, i think we'll need to move it to the religious banter thread!

You carry a card around with your drivers licence that says "NO BLOOD"
with your signature on, its recognised as a legal document. I have to admit
it is scary, but then again blood isn't the perfect life saver either (ie) a
person can take a lot longer to recover after a transfusion than not, also if
blood is put into your body at the wrong temperature you can go into shock
as well as are exposed to infections (no I'M NOT talking hiv, just standard
infections that can cause complications afterwards)

But in the event of the other things you mentioned ...who knows half the
time I haven't got my card with me.......so no doubt I will go to hell for that.
( i'm only joking) seeing as we witnesses are hard out nutcase
extremists.

Most of us on the odd occassion can be quite normal you know, we even
ride motorcycles on a Saturday morning, we don't always stick our foot in your front door .

[maybe]

I do not donate blood but my organs are up for the taking its on my licence and the family are aware.

[jrandom]

I am a Jehovahs Witness so won't have blood if I have an accident

Me too. Didn't realise you were as well, Katwyn. We'll have to catch up sometime.

Now you all have a nice convenient label to slap on me the next time I contribute to the Religious Ravings thread...

Cos I can donate organs that
don't require blood in surgery - I think??

Well, it does come down to whatever you think and feel in the end, doesn't it... anyway, the 'blood' principle can't really affect organ donation, can it. Since organs aren't blood.

Is anyone interested in an explanation of why Jehovah's Witnesses don't accept blood transfusions? I could probably rouse myself to make a few posts on the topic.

Also, this prompted me to have a poke back through the Religious Ravings thread, and I note that Zed has made some rather incorrect assertions about JW doctrine and beliefs which I didn't notice at the time.

I guess I'd better head back over and start it all up again with a bit of refutation. This has now got personal, y'all...

[MadDuck]

Crikey does it really matter about our religious ....or non religious beliefs?

If I fell off the scoot (god forbid) then I for one would hope that what is left goes to help someone else to live a good and healthy life. If they can scrape up what is left that is.

I think I have mentioned before I have a "living will" which means in the worst case scenario a relative that knows my wishes decides.

---> religous ravings that way please :confused2

**waits for fallout**

[jrandom]

Crikey does it really matter about our religious ....or non religious beliefs?

Not on a biking forum it doesn't

Except in the Religious Ravings thread...

If I fell off the scoot (god forbid) then I for one would hope that what is left goes to help someone else to live a good and healthy life. If they can scrape up what is left that is.

I think most of us would agree with that.

**waits for fallout**

Er... rant! Rave! Blither blither blither!

[MadDuck]

Blither?

WTF...lmao

[KATWYN]

Me too. Didn't realise you were as well, Katwyn. We'll have to catch up sometime.

Now you all have a nice convenient label to slap on me the next time I contribute to the Religious Ravings thread...

...

That makes two of us huh? I came out of the closet breifly in the religeous
thread but stayed out of it after that cos I didn't wanna hijack Zeds
thread- tempting though it was.

[jrandom]

That makes two of us huh? I came out of the closet breifly in the religeous
thread but stayed out of it after that cos I didn't wanna hijack Zeds
thread. Hubby and I have been inactive for a while.

I don't consider myself to be in any closets! Although, goodness knows, one is more likely to receive opprobrium today for holding religious beliefs than for being homosexual. Sad, innit.

I wouldn't normally use an online biking forum to talk religion. I think it's a bit impolite. But since we have the SpankMe-sanctioned Religious Ravings thread, it's all on... and anyway, I don't think that reasoned discussion on relevant topics constitutes a hijack of Zed's thread.

Don't think I'll have time to contribute today at work, though. I might get a chance late tonight.

[Slim]

Good on you Slim, for refreshing this post, my views already recorded eariler in the thread, however I had a nice father daughter moment two weeks ago, my youngest daughter (also a KBer) and I gave together, it was her first donation.she had been nagging me for two years to do it, her choice.

That's fantastic. Nice to see your daughter is persistent. Does the Fire Service promote blood donation at all? Just curious.

I survived the anti-coagulants, and only had 7 cycles on the machine (down from the 9 I had to do for my first one!) and normal service has resumed this morning. And got offered cheese on crackers for a nice change. Looking forward to them offering a glass of red wine with them at some future stage!

[Firefight]

That's fantastic. Nice to see your daughter is persistent. Does the Fire Service promote blood donation at all? Just curious.

I survived the anti-coagulants, and only had 7 cycles on the machine (down from the 9 I had to do for my first one!) and normal service has resumed this morning. And got offered cheese on crackers for a nice change. Looking forward to them offering a glass of red wine with them at some future stage!

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Yes all fire services promote blood donation, however it is still the individual choice, and normally you are not allowed to donate while on an operational duty(for obvoius reasons) We got fresh muffins as well as the normal bickys
when we went , my daughter was really made to feel welcome, made the whole thing a experience for her.

F/F

[KATWYN]

I don't think that reasoned discussion on relevant topics constitutes a hijack of Zed's thread.
.

True. It was mighty tempting though. Anyway I am not going to use the
"R" word on this blood thread....will catch up with you in the "other" thread
JR. Look out Zed, here I come

[Mongoose]

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Yes all fire services promote blood donation, however it is still the individual choice, and normally you are not allowed to donate while on an operational duty(for obvoius reasons) We got fresh muffins as well as the normal bickys
when we went , my daughter was really made to feel welcome, made the whole thing a experience for her.

F/F

Both my son and daughter have come on down to watch Dad give blood fior a few years now and so far they seem to think its a piece of the proverbial and will do it once they are of age. Personaly I think they enjoy the biccy and drink they get afterwards.