Bikeless noob here (kiwirach83)

**kiwirach83** · 27th December 2009, 22:38

Hi all,

I got my learners few years back so hoping to get a 250 that I can be a nana and learn on and then graduate up to a bigger chunkier sexier bike once I have the skills and the moneys.

Still unsure on what bike to start out on, budget is around $5k and I want a new one. I wish they still sold brand new GN250's.

Any suggestions would be great.

Sincerely,

Rach
The Town Drunkard

**FJRider** · 27th December 2009, 22:51

BIKE RIDER magazine usually has prices of current NEW bikes available in New Zealand.

**Subike** · 27th December 2009, 23:17

the easy answer to this question if your budjet is $5k is the
Yamaha 225 Scorpio.
And thats a brand new bike.
You will find plenty of praise for the scorpio contained in this forum,
they have proven to be able to be a good commutor and also able to do long distance open road trips with no ill effects.
And as they are priced at around $4200 retail new, you will be able to get a helmet gloves and basic jacket with the remaining $800, or pay for a years insurance.
You could even find a good second hand one on trade me for around $3500

**kiwirach83** · 27th December 2009, 23:18

^Cheers.

Would it be wise starting out on one of those road-legal dirt bike thingeemajiggers? Or an actual road bike?

**Subike** · 27th December 2009, 23:22

Originally Posted by kiwirach83

^Cheers.

Would it be wise starting out on one of those road-legal dirt bike thingeemajiggers? Or an actual road bike?

now thats sure going to start a good debate.
it depends upon what you want to ride in the future

**kiwirach83** · 27th December 2009, 23:42

Yea I have to fight the urge to make an impulse buy and think further down the line.

What I want is something that wont kill me when I learn on it (so definately nothing too powerful) but not something unpowerful like a granny scooter as I will want to ride it on the motorway.

I want to do a roadtrip of NZ at some stage and I have talked to people about that and they laughed when I said I wanted to do that on a 250. Perhaps I could hire one of those awful touring loungermobiles with all the storage compartments tacked on. Then everyone will be polite to me on the roads because they'll think I'm a 65 year old man.

**vindy500** · 27th December 2009, 23:50

If you want brand new, the scorpios your bike

**kiwirach83** · 28th December 2009, 00:05

yea it's pretty

D'oh. can't post images in this thread!

**crazyhorse** · 28th December 2009, 06:11

I'd buy a second hand one. That way you won't lose any money on it for sure, and then buy a new one when you are on your full and have more experience under your belt.

Good on you, have fun and make sure you test ride bikes in order to get the feel of what you do like

**one fast tl1ooo** · 28th December 2009, 06:46

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

I'd buy a second hand one. That way you won't lose any money on it for sure, and then buy a new one when you are on your full and have more experience under your belt.

Good on you, have fun and make sure you test ride bikes in order to get the feel of what you do like

Yip what she said..

**CookMySock** · 28th December 2009, 07:00

It's a good thing for newbs to buy a new (or very new) bike. It's one less thing they have to think about, when they already have lots to do. Do consider looking for something a grand less than new price, with only a few thousand km's on it.

Types of bikes - it depends where you see yourself in five years time. Do you just want to just have a full bike license and a little experience? Do you want to tour the country quietly and enjoy the scenery? Do you want to combine a little road with some riding up in the bush with a tent strapped to your packrack? Do you want to tour the country in expert hard-core mode with the hotboys and enjoy the road, ignore the scenery, and maybe do a little bit of track? All these things will hint at what learner bike you need to set your initial thinking in place. If you don't start in the right place, you won't end up wherre you want to go.

Steve

**crazyhorse** · 28th December 2009, 08:50

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

It's a good thing for newbs to buy a new (or very new) bike. It's one less thing they have to think about, when they already have lots to do. Do consider looking for something a grand less than new price, with only a few thousand km's on it.

Yes, this can be a good idea too - however, newbies who have 250cc bikes or less, rarely thrash them. They are more or less keen to just learn to ride, and then sell to get something bigger as soon as they get their full. Yes, older bikes may run the risk of repairs etc, but at least if you drop a second hand bike, it would not gut you as much as if you had just dropped your brand new bike.

**vindy500** · 28th December 2009, 09:08

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

Yes, this can be a good idea too - however, newbies who have 250cc bikes or less, rarely thrash them. They are more or less keen to just learn to ride, and then sell to get something bigger as soon as they get their full. Yes, older bikes may run the risk of repairs etc, but at least if you drop a second hand bike, it would not gut you as much as if you had just dropped your brand new bike.

I'm sorry, people dont thrash 250's?

**crazyhorse** · 28th December 2009, 09:13

Originally Posted by vindy500

I'm sorry, people dont thrash 250's?

Yes they sure do - but I was meaning Newbies. I know a lot that just want to learn to ride - and properly. I know a lot who already know how to ride, and it is a necessity to have one for licence purposes only. If not too old, then they should still be really good.

Did you buy a new one?? Or was yours second hand???

**vindy500** · 28th December 2009, 09:44

Originally Posted by crazyhorse

Yes they sure do - but I was meaning Newbies. I know a lot that just want to learn to ride - and properly. I know a lot who already know how to ride, and it is a necessity to have one for licence purposes only. If not too old, then they should still be really good.

Did you buy a new one?? Or was yours second hand???

ive gone through a few second hand ones. My flatmate got a new one, both were thrashed