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    notice they are flying the scull n crossbones, that makes them pirates dont it ........arrr

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    Generally speaking my politics are diametrically opposed to the sort of people you'd expect to see crewing a sea sheppard boat, but honestly we need to send the navy out and fucking sink those whalers.

    I hand on heart want John Key and Kevin Rudd to send in the frigates and sink the jap whalers, with all hands on boards, and no warning shots fired.

    It's not that I'm all that attached to whales, but I have major issues with the japanese fleets coming down to OUR part of the world to steal natural resources. If they want to go whaling, let them do it in their waters, not ours.
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    From Colregs....(Maritime collision regulations)

    Rule 2 Responsibility

    (b) In construing and complying with these Rules due regard shall be had to all dangers of navigation and collision and to any special circumstances, including the limitations of the vessels involved, which may make a departure from these Rules necessary to avoid immediate danger.



    Rule 5 requires that "every vessel shall at all times maintain a proper look-out by sight and hearing as well as by all available means appropriate in the prevailing circumstances and conditions so as to make a full appraisal of the situation and of the risk of collision.

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    Section II - Conduct of vessels in sight of one another (Rules 11-18)

    Rule 17 deals with the action of the stand-on vessel, including the provision that the stand-on vessel may "take action to avoid collision by her manoeuvre alone as soon as it becomes apparent to her that the vessel required to keep out of the way is not taking appropriate action.

    In this situation, it appears the whaler is supposed to give way however...rule 17 states the Sea Shephard should take action to avoid collision and as the sea shephard is capable of 40 kts...

    In the one photo you can see nets on the side of the Jap boat which leads to another thought, was the Jap boat involved in some "Token" trawling, and although I cannot see any, she wouldthen be required to display two black cones from her rigging indicating she was "restricted in her ability to manouver" telling all other vessels to keep clear.

    ....Twas deliberate attempted suicide in anyones books

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    I think they expected the andy gil to bounce off un damaged. Lolz

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimjim View Post
    notice they are flying the scull n crossbones, that makes them pirates dont it ........arrr
    The Shepherd's crook signifies that we are shepherds of the sea and the trident signifies that we fight for life in the sea. The skull represents the enemy of the sea (i.e. mankind) and the yin and yang with the dolphin and the whales means we must learn from the whales and dolphins how to live in harmony with the sea.

    Bit pretentious IMO....

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    Quote Originally Posted by LBD View Post
    The Shepherd's crook signifies that we are shepherds of the sea and the trident signifies that we fight for life in the sea. The skull represents the enemy of the sea (i.e. mankind) and the yin and yang with the dolphin and the whales means we must learn from the whales and dolphins how to live in harmony with the sea.

    Bit pretentious IMO....
    Their are simply a bunch of small dicked violent fuckers looking for an outlet. They have to pander to the tree huggers for money so they can go and play pirates where no one can stop them. Mind you I'm pretty certain there are kickbacks to Sea Shepherd from the Jap Whaling industry since this kind of publicity only serves to increase demand for their product. It's kind of like King Crabs, Crayfish, lobsters and Caviar. The harder it is to get the more they can charge for the products. If there is an added public awareness of risk (such as being rammed so far from land that there will be potential loss of life) then the price is gonna go up and the act of hunting will be perpetuated.
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    Stupid hippies and their whale worship.
    The stupid animals will try to kill themselves if we aren't there to do it for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McJim View Post
    Mind you I'm pretty certain there are kickbacks to Sea Shepherd from the Jap Whaling industry since this kind of publicity only serves to increase demand for their product.
    There is a school of thought that Sea Shepherd et.al. are only prolonging Jap whaling. Jap culture is all about saving face, and they are less likely to stop with a bunch of Western Devils telling them to.
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    Some interesting points of view. I have some sympathy the aims of Greenpeace if rather less for the actual GreenPeace activists.

    Who had right of way is irrelevant, for these turkeys to allow themselves to be in a position where they were vulnerable given their recent activities was just plain stupid.

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    I've noticed in the NZPA feed this morning that they suggest the Earthrace was rammed by the Japs. So have the Japs perfected a new propulsion method that moves them 2 knots sideways? Could see plumes from the Earthrace engines at the last minute as they tried to get under the bow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixie View Post
    Stupid hippies and their whale worship.
    LOL shades of homer simpson there..

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    Quote Originally Posted by McDuck View Post
    Dont know if there has been a thread on it yet..... but here is the vid.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yskxr...layer_embedded

    Dont think they can blame the whaler for that one...
    can;t even watch...link has been removed as it violated code of ethics....interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lias View Post
    Generally speaking my politics are diametrically opposed to the sort of people you'd expect to see crewing a sea sheppard boat, but honestly we need to send the navy out and fucking sink those whalers.

    I hand on heart want John Key and Kevin Rudd to send in the frigates and sink the jap whalers, with all hands on boards, and no warning shots fired.

    It's not that I'm all that attached to whales, but I have major issues with the japanese fleets coming down to OUR part of the world to steal natural resources. If they want to go whaling, let them do it in their waters, not ours.
    We agree again. I see the Japs have lodged a complaint and McCully has referred it to Maritime New Zealand. 'Hoseing the crew after they had been rammed pretty well says it all.

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    New Linky http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8Suy...&feature=email
    Clearly shows no collision would have occurred if Earthrace hadn't powered up at the last minute to tuck in under the bow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McJim View Post
    Clearly shows no collision would have occurred if Earthrace hadn't powered up at the last minute to tuck in under the bow.
    I wonder if that was more the "plan A" power-up before the hard-to-starboard. Looks like they abandoned plan A and went for Plan B "HARRRRRRRD ASTERN!"

    It's hard to tell but it seems to me the camera platform was in a slow sweeping right turn and slowly collected Earthrace.

    edit: in the last few seconds of the video clip, notice the white water trail from the larger vessel. This vessel was in a turn to the left?

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