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    BRONZ Update (7 January)

    BRONZ (Auckland) held its first meeting of 2010 last night, and confirmed its position regarding ACC levies .

    BRONZ has outstanding and ongoing concerns about :

    • The size of the levy (for large bikes in particular), and the probability of large increases next time round.
    • Separate cc classifications
    • The problem of multi vehicle ownership


    BRONZ confirmed its three objectives

    Abolition of the separate motorcycle classification
    Abolition of cc distinction
    Abolition of statutory full funding requirement

    (achieving no 1 would automatically eliminate no 2 , but they were both kept because no 2 may be a stepping stone to no 1)

    BRONZ also confirmed its opinion that a fairer method of collection should be established.

    BRONZ considered specific actions for Q1 2010.

    No specific BRONZ organised protest action is planned for Q1, but BRONZ will continue to endorse protests that meet BRONZ criteria (legal, not having disruption as the primary reason, though recognising that protest usually entails some disruption to someone)

    BRONZ will undertake a program of education and persuasion targeted at the public and at decision makers and influencers, focused on the objectives above. These targets include National and Labour MPs, media, and the general and motorcycling public

    BRONZ will review specific protest action (ie megaphones, bikes on the road) as ACC actions or events provide a 'hook' to centre protest action on - noting that the next such event is likely to be the release of the report of the ACC Stocktake Group, forecast for March

    BRONZ also noted the invidious position of the AA as regards motorcycles and resolved to communicate concerns to the AA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRONZ View Post
    BRONZ also noted the invidious position of the AA as regards motorcycles and resolved to communicate concerns to the AA.
    With regard to this one, refer to my thread about the AA:
    http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...se-from-the-AA

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    I think those are important issues. What are BRONZ's strategies to achieve them? Do they need any help?

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    As anyone heard of the new ACC levies on the ski fields, whose next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketgal68 View Post
    As anyone heard of the new ACC levies on the ski fields, whose next?
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/3214...rage-skifields

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    fukky funding ACC

    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    With regard to this one, refer to my thread about the AA:
    http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...se-from-the-AA
    I cannot see the govt budging on this because this is the only way you can privatise ACC , something that the national party have been vetry keen on in the past so by 2019 all outstanding claims will be fully funded and new claims will be fully funded each year
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    Good work there Les and BRONZ's exec, I know that the meetings are advertsied but could they please be posted up a few days beforehand so us idiots out here can make time to come along. I recently rejoined the AA and paid for the AA Plus,What do ya know 2 weeks after doing that I had occassion to have the wifes bike transported home. Ya a win.But the real reason I re upped is to get inside and see whats what. so wish me luck.

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    Nice one guys. I imagine we'll be providing some feedback after BRONZ Welly's meeting second Tuesday of February. (bump)
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    Much of this crap was related to the fact that ACC claims have failed to accurately distinguish and classify accident types. i.e. Off road, race track, farm, etc.etc. 'Commuter Boys' and 'Ornamental Bike Polishers' should not have to suffer the consequenses of accidents by such unrealated groups. I would like to see some efforts put into getting ACC to update the claims process to be more specific and hence accurately classify the claim type. The next time ACC throw figures at us we at least what to have a degree of confidence in their accuracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    Much of this crap was related to the fact that ACC claims have failed to accurately distinguish and classify accident types. i.e. Off road, race track, farm, etc.etc. 'Commuter Boys' and 'Ornamental Bike Polishers' should not have to suffer the consequenses of accidents by such unrealated groups. I would like to see some efforts put into getting ACC to update the claims process to be more specific and hence accurately classify the claim type. The next time ACC throw figures at us we at least what to have a degree of confidence in their accuracy.
    I do not agree.

    The requirement for pre-funding should be removed. Then there wouldn't even be a seperate motorcycle charge. There would be a simple flat road user charge, as it was originally.

    The more you ask ACC to sub-classify accidents and assess risk, the more you are re-inforcing the desire for insurance. We want an accident compensation scheme - not an insurance policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    I do not agree.

    The requirement for pre-funding should be removed. Then there wouldn't even be a seperate motorcycle charge. There would be a simple flat road user charge, as it was originally.

    The more you ask ACC to sub-classify accidents and assess risk, the more you are re-inforcing the desire for insurance. We want an accident compensation scheme - not an insurance policy.
    OK - So I do agree with what you have said, but I do think it will easier to get ACC to play their own game rather than change it to what we consider to be fair and reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    I do not agree.

    The requirement for pre-funding should be removed. Then there wouldn't even be a seperate motorcycle charge. There would be a simple flat road user charge, as it was originally.

    The more you ask ACC to sub-classify accidents and assess risk, the more you are re-enforcing the desire for insurance. We want an accident compensation scheme - not an insurance policy.
    exactly, accidents from unrelated groups etc would eventually be removed if nick smith gets his way, it'll be after they privatize it in 2019 once its fully funded of course, but itll happen. The issue is now more about the future of ACC itself. Though in saying that, I'm not gonna be shafted from now until 2019 just to facilitate the disassembly of ACC. BRONZ is doing the right thing by me as a biker, and also the right thing by me as a kiwi

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    Quote Originally Posted by YellowDog View Post
    OK - So I do agree with what you have said, but I do think it will easier to get ACC to play their own game rather than change it to what we consider to be fair and reasonable.
    Negative. We want ACC to go back to how it was originally implemented. Letting ACC play by their own rules is the reason why we are where we are today.

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