Rules re engine mods?

[Buckets4Me]

It's my understanding that most of the ESE (what does ESE stand for by the way) team has RS125 framed,GP125 powered buckets.........

Has Dave Manule (sp) tried one of these?

When I was riding a TZ250, Dave was riding the shit out of an old RS250 (leaving far more modern machinery behind), and that would suggest that he could prove your point quite well.

only 2 of the bikes are rs framed
1 has the orginal frame (with bracing)
and another has the origanal frame stretched
then there are the 2 rg50's (with 2 more on the way)

E.S.E stands for (mind the spelling misstakes) Envirometal Service Enginers (racing 2 smokers )
Dave M raced TZ's standard framed gp and did well on it (Dam he is brave)
every corner it was pushing the frount (big BIG frount end slides) But he wasent to worried because as soon as he got on the power it would lift the frount wheel and stop sliding
he only crashed it once that day

[F5 Dave]

Yeah Peter's old bike had KE 6 speed gearbox.

[speedpro]

Having ridden a bucket or two it is my opinion that the KE 6-speed is the best gearbox available, even better than an MB50 box.

[jasonu]

Having ridden a bucket or two it is my opinion that the KE 6-speed is the best gearbox available, even better than an MB50 box.

Is there any difference between the KE and KH gearbox?

[F5 Dave]

What about the RG50 CVT gbox. Or is that just my one?

[TZ350]

O.K, I'll put my 2€'s in.....

It's my understanding that most of the ESE (what does ESE stand for by the way) team has RS125 framed,GP125 powered buckets.........Has Dave Manule (sp) tried one of these?

Dave rode a GP framed bike, he pretty much proved we arn't going to be winners with the original 70's frames.

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[speedpro]

What about the RG50 CVT gbox. Or is that just my one?

I always thought your transmission was interesting. Interesting in that it has lasted as long as it has!

[SS90]

Dave rode a GP framed bike, he pretty much proved we arn't going to be winners with the original frames.

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I remember someone much earlier on posting that a GP125 frame was simply "macaroni elbows held together with spaggetti", which I laughed at (because it's true)

GN125 frames fitted with a vt250 rear (drum brake wheel), and a ZZR250 front wheel (disc turned to face the wrong way, and fitted straight up) where always great handlers before the rules allowed RS125 frames, and 5 years ago in the south, that was the winning combo.

Clearly a RS125 frame "is the go" now........

[SS90]

only 2 of the bikes are rs framed


E.S.E stands for (mind the spelling misstakes) Envirometal Service Enginers (racing 2 smokers )

Interesting, the ESC (European scooter challenge) team I race with is DSE (dirty south engineering)

[jasonu]

What about the RG50 CVT gbox. Or is that just my one?

What is this you speak of???

[jasonu]

before the rules allowed RS125 frames,
Clearly a RS125 frame "is the go" now........[/QUOTE]

Were RS frames ever not allowed? The rules for everything except the 'non comp. engines and internals' thing have never (to my knowledge) limited anything else.
In the mid 90's me and a mate used to race RS125's in the F3 class as there wasn't enough of them for a class of their own. We never thought they would get 'butchered' for buckets. These days, any pre 95 Rs125 is realistically only good for that fate.

[F5 Dave]

What is this you speak of???

Lever on the left hand bar

Frames have always been free to use anything.

[Buckets4Me]

What is this you speak of???

you have never heard F5Dave go past have you
the bike never dips below 13000 rpm

[F5 Dave]

Don't start him up the Fecker will say 'no' & rave on about how he beat me in some GP back last century, but I passed him plenty of times. just not the crucial last time.

[jasonu]

Don't start him up the Fecker will say 'no' & rave on about how he beat me in some GP back last century, but I passed him plenty of times. just not the crucial last time.

Na Dave, I am more inclined to point out that your bikes never made any power below 13000, so that was why it never 'dipped' below 13000 cause it would fall flat on its tits...

Been busy spending $'s on the old girl. Some of your comments from the GP made me decide to give it a facelift.