"New Zealand Stinks"

[danb]

Might want to get out of your parents house before you get ahead of yourself.

Leech while you can
No harm in thinking about the future or what is going to left of it.

[idb]

Ugg if my spelling is still screwed this time round

How can you expect to make yourself understood with that attitude?
Write 100 times 'furnace'.

[bevsta]

I though Auckland was pretty good - it all blows away.
But I'm from Sydney, which is surrounded by mountains (Kiwis call them hills) - but the sky can get a heavy layer of brown after a few calm days.

You think Auckland is good, you should try coming down here to Wellington, we're clean as a whistle! Yess-sirr-ee, gotta love that wind!

[250learna]

yeah welly wind blows everyingting away, everything but them bloody rain clouds... hope it stays clear for a few days.

Ohh and i been up and down north island many times and i cant say that i have noticed any smog. Same goes for the upper part of the south.

Ohh and in my house we use central gas heating

[James Deuce]

I've also just come accross a web site that states that NZ has the worst ashma rate in the world per head of population!!!!!!!!! No shit!

That has a great deal to do with the native flora being 150 million years older than everywhere on the planet except Tasmania and parts of the East coast of Aus. Our soil composition is also vastly different than most other arable places.

Another reason is the medical profession's willingness to label ANY respitory ailment with viral or allergen triggers asthma.

Airborne man-made carbon pollution is massively over-hyped. The Atlantic Ocean pumps out a HUGE amount of CO2, so much so that you can barely see man's output on a pie chart next to it, and I don't see anyone sticking a catalytic converter on the Mid-Atlantic Trench anytime soon.

Christchurch would have smog in winter, if only from the methane cloud produced by the organic carbon based life forms that live there. Without wood fire particulates to bind methane to, Christchurch would look like the surface of Titan during winter. LA still looks like shit most of the time, and the cloud of smog over Europe means you don't need sunglasses in Summer. I'm missing the point a bit I think.

[Quasievil]

I thought the Christchurch council were soughting it out ie taxing them or banning them , No? well they should

Last month flew out of Mexico city, WOW smog central lost sight of the ground fairly quickly YUCK

[sels1]

Is it like this throughout NZ? Or is it just that ChCh is in a bowl, so that this shitty, toxic haze tends to hang about like a rancid fart

Got it in one. Christchurchs topography means there is an inversion layer of cold air (particulaly in winter) that traps emmissions from all sources around the city and causes a smog problems. The ChCh city council has brought in regulations controlling open fires I understand, but it is an on going problem. Fortunatly for the rest of NZ it is not such an issue anywhere else due to sufficient airflow - it all blows away! Smog will be observed in any city if the air is still enough.

[MSTRS:Me]

Nothing nicer than that earthy smell in the bush overlaid by a campfire. The stink of a logburner is caused by having it 'damped down' too much - the tradeoff for not burning so much wood.

[The Tazman]

[/QUOTE] How many people on here have Internal Heating? And what company’s provide it here in New Zealand? - Something to think about when I want to get or build a house [/QUOTE]

I have just been looking into this. As John said a big problem is dampness.

This is one of the co.'s that I have looked at as it is supposed to get rid of the damp and warm up the house (if you have the heated version)

www.condensation.co.nz

Have a look and see what you think.

[Maximus]

Actually....Chch doesn't get as much wind cos its flat and stuff. Wgtn doesn't get smog cos the wind blows it away and Auckland doesn't get as much cos it has hills with up drafts and stuff.....
sorry man...
I've been told by some travelers that Chch is our LA equivalent in that area.

That makes sense, I noticed this when I flew outta ch/ch yesterday.

[TwoSeven]

I was going to make a post a while back that the "great christchurch stink" has started. I go for walks every night and by the time I get back i'm coughing and choking - you can smell the stink of you go outside during the day. It must be one of the worst cities in the winter i've ever lived in for pollution. We have had some spectacular red moons and a couple of brown ones.

Last year was the best one - our fire alarms started going off every time we opened the verandah doors at night. We have those new ones now that aint so sensitive.

I think getting rid of open fires would be a good idea - that would make a big difference, then it would just come down to vehicle emmissions.

[Marmoot]

huh? I thought the topic was about Auckland's toilets...

But, while we're at it, Auckland Int'l Airport toilet stinks like heck! It even stinks more than Guangzhou's local bus terminal's toilet.
It even stinks more than Imax's toilet.

Anyway...carry on as you were....

[Hitcher]

If Christchurch had more winter winds nobody would notice the smog.

Christchurch's smog is caused by the combined effects of a temperature inversion layer (thanks to the sun setting behind the Alps), the Port Hills and the fact that the city is built on a swamp.

There has been a lot of bullshit promulgated by the Christchurch City authorities and Environment Canterbury about causes of this. They first picked on coal fires. This argument was flawed by a cursory examination of the facts (gasp, look of horror) that clearly showed that while coal usage had fallen dramatically since the 1950s, the smog had got worse! Anyway, coal still got banned for domestic use because, well, it's black.

Diesel motor vehicles and vehicles generally have escaped unscathed. Open fires have been boarded up. But log fires are still permitted, just because you can't have pensioners dying of cold in the winter. The fact that most people use wet firewood doesn't seem to figure in the thinking of central planners. Wet firewood = incomplete combustion = particulate matter and other nasties in the stack emissions = smog problem exacerbator.

Dismounts hobbyhorse. Returns it to gargre.

[Lou Girardin]

Ain't it great, people moan about pollution, yet we have unfettered importation of the worlds cast off shit-box cars, which are only cheap because they can't be used at home due to their polluting engines.
No wonder I'm a cynical bastard.

[TwoSeven]

If Christchurch had more winter winds nobody would notice the smog.

Christchurch's smog is caused by the combined effects of a temperature inversion layer (thanks to the sun setting behind the Alps), the Port Hills and the fact that the city is built on a swamp.

There has been a lot of bullshit promulgated by the Christchurch City authorities and Environment Canterbury about causes of this. They first picked on coal fires. This argument was flawed by a cursory examination of the facts (gasp, look of horror) that clearly showed that while coal usage had fallen dramatically since the 1950s, the smog had got worse! Anyway, coal still got banned for domestic use because, well, it's black.

Diesel motor vehicles and vehicles generally have escaped unscathed. Open fires have been boarded up. But log fires are still permitted, just because you can't have pensioners dying of cold in the winter. The fact that most people use wet firewood doesn't seem to figure in the thinking of central planners. Wet firewood = incomplete combustion = particulate matter and other nasties in the stack emissions = smog problem exacerbator.

Dismounts hobbyhorse. Returns it to gargre.

What unadultered nonsense.

Smog is not caused in christchuch by the lack of winds or an inversion layer. I've never heard of lack of wind causing fire smoke before. Neither have I ever heard of any swamp every causing fire smoke. Swamps also dont produce carbon monoxide by burning fossil fuels either.

I suspect what you were trying to say is that christchurch is a higher polluter and we suffer from it because there is no wind to blow all that pollution away.

Diesel vehicles produce better emmisions than most cars - specially since the sulpher has been removed and dont forget that the no-smoky vehicle rule has been in for several years - yet we still have a high Carbon monoxide content in the smog - must be those swamps and the port hills causing it.

Where did you get such tripe from

We live smack bang in the middle of the so called inversion layer and if you go out side - you'll pretty much get coated in fire smoke. Its 2pm and I can see shit coming out of 3 chimneys just from my kitchen window.

Instead of blaming lack of wind for the fact that christchurch folks are heavy polluters why dont you but some effort into preventing pollution. I know we do.

Sorry, but I really hate it when people quote verbatem socialist coal industry shite without first looking out their window.