South Auckland Street Skills

**aws** · 9th September 2014, 00:47

Originally Posted by eldog

I have several subjects I want to ask about - after the ride - dont worry I dont need a lecture just advice

what happens when the rear slides - what to do (I think I know the answer)

tank slappers - what they are, how they occur, how to control them (if you can) etc

what to do or even think about if things go wrong

and the obvious

ATGATT - good gear it pays

I won't be there tonight as I have a meeting, but my thoughts:

I don't really know much about what happens when the rear slides and I won't be trying to find out on public roads - or anytime probably. May be once in my youth - but I don't have that need these days. Of course the limits depend on your rubber, but personally I like to ride well within my rubber on the road. In my mind, sliding the rear is an advanced racing technique suited to the track. Of course a slide could be due to debris on the road or a particularly slippery surface, but most likely that kind of slide will be so fast that you won't have time to react - and if you do have time, then I'd go with the less is more approach. An over-correction is likely to work out far worse for you than an under-correction. I'm a great believer in letting the bike deal with most situations.

Tank slappers are more a feature of the bike than of your riding style - although hard acceleration out of a rough corner is going to increase the odds. Back in the days when manufacturers thought that 16" wheels were a good idea, they were much more common. Today's 17" wheels are a good compromise between stability and flickability - so unless you have a sports bike with a steep steering head rake and no damper, you shouldn't have a problem. If you do experience one, unless you've suddenly become Marc Marquez overnight, it's not likely to be too serious - probably just a quick head shake and you're on your way again. I'm pretty sure that part of the cause is that the front wheel is almost fully unloaded - the same way it's the shopping trolley wheel that is only just touching the ground that flaps around - so easing off on the throttle should help control such a tendency. Or there is the steering damper option...

**Sis** · 9th September 2014, 23:01

Good night of practising leading groups of bikes. This is the carpark work we did.

I am not having much luck with the pic so this is it on flickr

https://www.flickr.com/photos/505768...n/photostream/

**nzspokes** · 9th September 2014, 23:18

Originally Posted by Sis

Good night of practising leading groups of bikes. This is the carpark work we did.

I am not having much luck with the pic so this is it on flickr

https://www.flickr.com/photos/505768...n/photostream/

Brilliant photo.

**Sis** · 9th September 2014, 23:48

Thanks. Lovely camera. That was with out a flash and I didn't use a tripod. It took about 5 shots and amalgamated it into one.

**f2dz** · 9th September 2014, 23:54

Damn, my bike out of line kinda sucks. I'll remember to not be a rebel next time and park in line.

After the talk of the Burgman scooters - this is the reason why you buy one and have your legs in front: http://www.motomail.co.nz/estore/style/tusleg037.aspx

Oh yeeeaa, would drive the ladies crazy with that one.

**Sis** · 10th September 2014, 00:21

Originally Posted by f2dz

Damn, my bike out of line kinda sucks. I'll remember to not be a rebel next time and park in line.

After the talk of the Burgman scooters - this is the reason why you buy one and have your legs in front: http://www.motomail.co.nz/estore/style/tusleg037.aspx

Oh yeeeaa, would drive the ladies crazy with that one.

You are , apparently, driving one particular lady crazy. Chocolate heart with your drink and then no charge. Now is it because of the sexy bike you ride...and it isn't a scooter with a fur lined cover.

**nzspokes** · 10th September 2014, 08:17

Originally Posted by f2dz

Damn, my bike out of line kinda sucks. I'll remember to not be a rebel next time and park in line.

After the talk of the Burgman scooters - this is the reason why you buy one and have your legs in front: http://www.motomail.co.nz/estore/style/tusleg037.aspx

Oh yeeeaa, would drive the ladies crazy with that one.

The small point you need to put your feet down...

**f2dz** · 10th September 2014, 11:23

Originally Posted by Sis

You are , apparently, driving one particular lady crazy. Chocolate heart with your drink and then no charge. Now is it because of the sexy bike you ride...and it isn't a scooter with a fur lined cover.

She has good taste if she's a fan of the gixxer!

Originally Posted by nzspokes

The small point you need to put your feet down...

I dunno, the people I see riding those things are always hauling it. They probably don't have a need to ever put their feet down.

Have I missed it later in the thread, or are those ART signups not out yet? I forgot to ask last night..

**Tigadee** · 10th September 2014, 16:28

Essential info for the newbies to SASS:
South Auckland Street Skills or SASS

WHAT: Learning and improving Riding Skills
WHEN: Tuesday Nights
WHERE: Meet at Z (ex-Shell) Service Station, Cnr Great South Road and Taka St, TAKANINI (the one with a Burger King)
WHO: Riders new and old, and anyone getting back into Motorcycling (must be legal & hold a motorcycle license).
Weather and venue permitting - Heavy Rain may mean that we are watching DVDs. Showers are OK, look on the thread for more up-to-date information.
Depending on the number of riders and their experience levels, a short ride may be included to practice further skills. If there are enough riders, some nights can be split into two different groups.

Some nights may include:
Practicing essential skills and techniques in a quiet carpark
On-the-road practice which may see you doing up to a 1hr - 1 1/2hr ride.

WHY:
- Practice essential skills for staying alive on the road.
- Practical help with your riding.
- Fun times with fellow riders, with great stories and discussions.
- Build friendships, solicit advice and pick-up riding tips.

MEET at Z station Takanini -----------> before 6.55pm

START ride -----------------------------> 7pm

FINISH ride at ex-Manukau City Council car park for slow-speed safety exercises -----> usually 8pm-8.15pm
(next to the new Manukau train station & opp.

police station)

SOCIAL time @ BRONCOS after car park exercises -----------> 8.45pm-ish

Cost: Nil, nada, zip, zero, nothing... Just your time and attention.

Details of what will be happening each week will be posted on this thread. So kick the tires and light the fires... Let's ride, aSASSins!

Disclaimer:
The SASS activity is intended to give any riders advice on their riding and to practice their skills in a safe and relaxed environment. The organisers of SASS are NOT responsible for any rider, their machines and/or any persons involved. All people attending SASS do so at their own risk.

**nzspokes** · 11th September 2014, 20:03

Attn Fraser

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-779255075.htm

**Tigadee** · 11th September 2014, 21:46

Originally Posted by Sis

Good night of practising leading groups of bikes. This is the carpark work we did.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/505768...n/photostream/

Oh yeah! Nice to be back too after a two month absence!

Missed my aSASSins! Preciousssssssss!

Awesome pic, Sis!

Originally Posted by f2dz

After the talk of the Burgman scooters - this is the reason why you buy one and have your legs in front: http://www.motomail.co.nz/estore/style/tusleg037.aspx
Oh yeeeaa, would drive the ladies crazy with that one.

I think there may be a lady under that cover...

Originally Posted by eldog

Tigadee you reading this?

Shush! Don't make me re-live the indignity of those horrific moments... I could hear myself saying "Oooooooh sheeeeeeeet!"

Originally Posted by nzspokes

The small point you need to put your feet down...

Yeah, yeah, I've heard of something like that one a motorbike...

*snapping fingers* What're they called? Top sit? Side sit? Stand side? Top stand? It's right there, oh what is it?!

**f2dz** · 12th September 2014, 14:24

Originally Posted by nzspokes

Attn Fraser

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-779255075.htm

I've seen those, but I'd like to try on a pair before buying some.

I went to Mr Motorcycles a few weeks ago because they have them on their site but they only get them in to order. I might go back and get them to do that, but first gonna check out Motomail tomorrow hopefully.

Any news on the ART days, Rob?