South Auckland Street Skills

**Tigadee** · 10th February 2015, 11:38

It'll clear before SASS, so enjoy your ride, aSASSins!

**nzspokes** · 10th February 2015, 11:59

Originally Posted by f2dz

Pouring rain in the city at the moment but if this clears I'll be there.

Fine here. Harden up. Bwhahaha

**f2dz** · 10th February 2015, 15:15

Ditto now. I'll b thur.

**bawked** · 10th February 2015, 17:44

Ill be there may be 5-10mins late

**Maakz** · 10th February 2015, 19:40

Hi folks-had every intention of coming tonight, went out to my bike, tried to start MY up and the battery was dead. Had to call AA to jump start. BUGGA. Hope yáll had a good ride out. Next time.

**bawked** · 10th February 2015, 21:56

Originally Posted by Maakz

Hi folks-had every intention of coming tonight, went out to my bike, tried to start MY up and the battery was dead. Had to call AA to jump start. BUGGA. Hope yáll had a good ride out. Next time.

Mine was dead too, so just bumped it leaving the driveway haha motorbikes are ridiculously easy to bump start.

**Sis** · 10th February 2015, 21:57

Originally Posted by Maakz

Hi folks-had every intention of coming tonight, went out to my bike, tried to start MY up and the battery was dead. Had to call AA to jump start. BUGGA. Hope yáll had a good ride out. Next time.

Thanks I got your message. We missed you.
We did the Waiuku/Tuakau/Runciman/Karaka loop tonight.

**flanders** · 11th February 2015, 16:54

Ok, so I watched myself on the vid (thanks Rob) for 20+ mins. I discovered the high speed fast forward option far too late into the vid unfortunately!

Anyhooo, whilst I can see my mistakes I still don't quite get why.

All I know is that in the vid I corner poorly, as Rob said MX style with my body remaining upright whilst the bike leans.

I know from last nights ride that leaning forward reduces my wind resistance and helps me corner simply because my chest isn't taking a pounding from the wind and of course my arms, being attached to my chest, have more control.

However I also noticed with leaning forward I can stay far more stable on the outside of the curve and don't cross the centre line nor do I do the "multple stabs at cornering" behaviour that I sometimes do (the whole corner event is far more contiguous and stable and consistent curve action from me and the bike).

But I have no idea "why".

Plus, Rob, I was told to "look over my shoulder" which I have no idea what that actually means.

Whilst leaning forward improves my cornering a whole lot, in my mind I am still somewhat crossing my body across the bike as it leans into a corner, i.e. my body is not in line with the gravitational pull towards the tyres / circumference of the curve but leans into the curve waiting for the bike to catch-up. I'm still not in-line but just simply no longer sitting up-right. Is this correct?

I'd appreciate some physics lessons!!

**The End** · 11th February 2015, 17:25

Originally Posted by Sis

Thanks I got your message. We missed you.
We did the Waiuku/Tuakau/Runciman/Karaka loop tonight.

Bugger wish I had have known! You guys would have ridden right passed where I live

**The End** · 11th February 2015, 17:31

Originally Posted by flanders

Plus, Rob, I was told to "look over my shoulder" which I have no idea what that actually means.

I wasn't there so could be wrong however I believe what is meant here is that you look over your shoulder THROUGH the corner. If you look through the corner, it unconsciously makes your body more comfortable and in the right position for the corner than when compared to being stiff and upright.

Watch this when you get a chance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVWLIfChUwg

It covers more than just riding position and is a must watch for all riders.

**nzspokes** · 11th February 2015, 17:35

Originally Posted by flanders

Ok, so I watched myself on the vid (thanks Rob) for 20+ mins. I discovered the high speed fast forward option far too late into the vid unfortunately!

Anyhooo, whilst I can see my mistakes I still don't quite get why.

All I know is that in the vid I corner poorly, as Rob said MX style with my body remaining upright whilst the bike leans.

I know from last nights ride that leaning forward reduces my wind resistance and helps me corner simply because my chest isn't taking a pounding from the wind and of course my arms, being attached to my chest, have more control.

However I also noticed with leaning forward I can stay far more stable on the outside of the curve and don't cross the centre line nor do I do the "multple stabs at cornering" behaviour that I sometimes do (the whole corner event is far more contiguous and stable and consistent curve action from me and the bike).

But I have no idea "why".

Plus, Rob, I was told to "look over my shoulder" which I have no idea what that actually means.

Whilst leaning forward improves my cornering a whole lot, in my mind I am still somewhat crossing my body across the bike as it leans into a corner, i.e. my body is not in line with the gravitational pull towards the tyres / circumference of the curve but leans into the curve waiting for the bike to catch-up. I'm still not in-line but just simply no longer sitting up-right. Is this correct?

I'd appreciate some physics lessons!!

Look over my shoulder refers to being my pillion. As you were in front of me you were not my pillion.

The why is easy, your arms are bent and you dont have weight on the bars so you are correctly guiding the front wheel not using the bars to hold on with.

For position it will be easier to explain in person.

**The End** · 11th February 2015, 17:39

Originally Posted by nzspokes

For position it will be easier to explain in person.

And for what NOT to do for position checkout this guy at 1:18

**Maha** · 11th February 2015, 17:46

Originally Posted by flanders

Ok, so I watched myself on the vid (thanks Rob) for 20+ mins. I discovered the high speed fast forward option far too late into the vid unfortunately!

Anyhooo, whilst I can see my mistakes I still don't quite get why.

All I know is that in the vid I corner poorly, as Rob said MX style with my body remaining upright whilst the bike leans.

I know from last nights ride that leaning forward reduces my wind resistance and helps me corner simply because my chest isn't taking a pounding from the wind and of course my arms, being attached to my chest, have more control.

However I also noticed with leaning forward I can stay far more stable on the outside of the curve and don't cross the centre line nor do I do the "multple stabs at cornering" behaviour that I sometimes do (the whole corner event is far more contiguous and stable and consistent curve action from me and the bike).

But I have no idea "why".

Plus, Rob, I was told to "look over my shoulder" which I have no idea what that actually means.

Whilst leaning forward improves my cornering a whole lot, in my mind I am still somewhat crossing my body across the bike as it leans into a corner, i.e. my body is not in line with the gravitational pull towards the tyres / circumference of the curve but leans into the curve waiting for the bike to catch-up. I'm still not in-line but just simply no longer sitting up-right. Is this correct?

I'd appreciate some physics lessons!!

Leaning forward has nothing to with correcting ''crossing the center line or "multiple stabs at cornering" another issue is a fault here.
I had a CB1300 and put a very small Givi screen on it which took the wind blast off my head area. The bike itself is designed for the more upright riding position and they go around corners (once you have sorted your corner entry issue) just fine.