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When you take into account how many assault rifles would meet the criteria for military application, 10 rifles is most likely a reasonable number to draw from. So within that 10 I would be interested in the 6 that are obviously infront of the Steyr.
I said its not that great, in certain applications it is good, but not all. Certainly the Austrian manufactured rifles are of good quality. I would also point out the existing Steyr we have is diffrrent to the current Steyr available.
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Hardcore Biker
I'm sure it would mate,but i have used the M16 and the Steyr and the SLR and would take the SLR any day over the other two.Originally Posted by firefighter
As an aside the NZ army went to the 5.56mm round (M16 and Steyr)because it was percieved to be more humane.The thinking behind it was that it would more often than not injure a man and would require two of his buddies to take him out of the firefight.
Whereas an SLR 7.62mm round would just take you out period.
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plus the 5.56mm round is the standardised round of Nato countries.
We just purchase the crappiest of the ammunition because of budgets constraints.
I remember firing the Steyr when I was in the Army.
Bang, bang, jam,...clear,...bang, bang, jam,..clear...bang, bang etc...great if you're in a firefight in Afghanistan.......
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Hahaha, or perhaps an old ball shot rifle would suit?! hahahahaha. That's typical old dinosaur talk. The SLR would be shit in a modern firefight.
Clean the thing properly then. I only ever had a couple of jams with the steyr, and it was more than suffiecient on OP Crib.
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Forum whore
Thats the second time I've heard that argument and it still sounds like BS. I would have thought it would be for the increased accuracy and lower drop-rate, but what ever...
Forum whore
Seeing as you sound like you've been in the army, can I ask you something? Are the only times you carry your weapon on the range and on ops, or can to take it (assumingly unloaded) around with you outside of there for field stripping practice/cleaning? Probably just a movie thing, where they try to disassemble and reassemble in 3 seconds flat etc, but I've been wondering...
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When I saw the photos I thought "You fucking wankers" The idiots in the media don't realise the enemy also has access to the media and will now know what he looks like and wonder who the other guy is.
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Irritant
Clearly you've done far more thinking than those that make the policies. Have you thought of offering your services as a consultant?
It's only when you take the piss out of a partially shaved wookie with an overactive 'me' gene and stapled on piss flaps that it becomes a problem.
Forum whore
Hey, I'm just saying I can't imagine NATO standardising a round "because it takes two of his buddies to take him out of the battle". I would think, however, that they've gone the same way as Russia and made a smaller, more accurate round with less recoil for a higher hit rate. Hitting someone with a smaller round has got to be better than missing them with a big one
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Not the Army. Navy/Airforce. No you do'nt carry it around any other time. If you wanted to go to the armoury and have a practise you could arrange it I guess, though I never heard of anyone being that hardcore! And no, you don't have to strip it and reassemble in 3 secs! lol. It's more about cleaning it properly than doing it really fast.
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Irritant
Depends what you're doing. I used to be at the ranges three or four times a week (sometimes) when not out on an Op.
It's only when you take the piss out of a partially shaved wookie with an overactive 'me' gene and stapled on piss flaps that it becomes a problem.
Irritant
That's EXACTLY why they did it. One man down, three out the fight.
It's only when you take the piss out of a partially shaved wookie with an overactive 'me' gene and stapled on piss flaps that it becomes a problem.
The metal is always nude.
errr....make sure I clean it properly? Oh yes I did do that....and there's also only so many times you can turn the gas plug around.
Plus stripping and cleaning my rifle while under fire would be the last thing on my mind !!
We had to practice stripping and reasembling the Steyr, while blindfolded, can make things interesting, especially when you drop pieces into the grass.
So, thanks for your advice, Firefighter.....
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Hardcore Biker
Say's it all really hahahahahahahah
Hardcore Biker
Hmmmm
I guess the whole point here is that there has always been an unwritten rule that SAS members are not identified in photographs by the news media. I haven't been in the SAS, but from what I understand they do a lot of "clandestine" work and a lot of recon work where they need to be able to blend in to the community they are operating in. It's not all about wearing the black gear and kicking down doors.
You could argue that such a recognisable figure should not have been sent in to Afganistan in the first place. I believe that the medal should have been kept on hold or issued under abbsolute secrecy - but the army top brass obviously decided differently. It could have been announced after Apiata left the SAS. The other question is - should the fact that a guy has been awarded a VC mean that his career should end? Does it give the media the right to publish photos on him when on SAS ops? I believe the answer is NO!
The photograph would not have been published if media did not buy them. They should not have done it. The publication of these photos give the Taliban direct intelligence that a VC holder is in their midst - what a great target! it effectively paints a target on his back and the back of every SAS guy there. YES he is well publicised in NZ. YES he is well known to be in the SAS. But what the publication of these photos did mwas give any enemy recent intelligence ion his whereabouts. Remember it is NOT his fault he won a VC and it shouldn't be used to paint a target on his back.
As for the weapons thing - the SAS use a variety of weapons for different purposes. They select them by their own experiecnce and the experience of special forces worldwide. these guys really are the elite, and demand and deserve the best of equipment. For example the MP5 is generally their weapn of choice for the CQB/building entry stuff - but that may have changed now.
NZ media should be ashamed of themselves!
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