Minimum Wage raise to $12.75

[Pascal]

And a lot of people are trying to bring up families on $12.75 an hour. Is that really the sort of society we want ?

I'd ask them why they're trying to bring up families on $12.75 when a 20 pack of Durex Classic is only $18 and that's at Foodtown. Then I'd ask them why they're shopping at Foodtown and not Pak n Save or even taking advantage of the cheapo deals you can get at the Chinese grocer. And as a last question I'd ask them what they're doing to ensure their kids aren't in their shoes by the time they're thinking about having kids.

This is an awesome country. There are opportunities everywhere, free education and enough government help for anyone to upskill. It's open to anyone.

I hear what you're saying about feckless / stupid / lazy and that is why there should be safety net. Sometimes shit happens and people get dealt shit cards. But that's why we have bootlaces, so we can pick ourselves up and carry on, right?

[ckai]

If you want good money you have to have a good attitude and be well presented. That will usually get you in the door at a decent sized company. Small fish go for small jobs and get small pay, if you want to earn reasonable money you have to work for it but once you're in the game it's not hard to support yourself, have some toys and upskill yourself all at the same time. But you have to decide whether you want a job or a career, and I certainly would hope that if you are after a career that you aren't on minimum wage unless you are an apprentice.

Yip. Generally, and I mean generally, those that complain about only getting minimum wage will never excel themselves to go above it. They complain about everything and the good companies don't want that attitude. Hence they stay where they are. You're always gonna get those types though. Those that can't be bothered making something of themselves.

On the other hand, there are asshole companies that will only employ min wage because they're greedy shits.

I always like looking at some of the other countries with no min wage. Theory is, the market will dictate the wage. Works well when there are more jobs then people, doesn't when people are fighting for jobs.

"Being on minimum wage is the bosses way of telling you he would pay you less if he could"

[Mully]

Labour need a kick around their necks. They had frikken 9 years and sat on their ass, didn't do much now they want National to increase it to $15 an hour just like that.

Apparently, the Maori party wanted an increase to $15/h too.

Cos apparently, two thirds of Maori earn below the median income.

[MisterD]

Cos apparently, two thirds of Maori earn below the median income.

Two thirds of maori are earning money rather than getting handouts - I'm fucking amazed by that stat...

[Molly]

It's a free market economy so it's up to the individual to work / study until they have something the market will pay good money for. Next thing I'd like to see is a restriction on benefits payable to young people and long-term unemployed (and I'd like benefits to be repayable). NZ has too many perfectly healthy young people languishing on the dole who should be filling their time looking for work, studying and / or doing something for the community (cleaning off taggs etc.).

[slofox]

As a self employed person, I would be glad of $12.75 an hour. 25 years self employment later, I have yet to pay myself the minimum wage. That's the trouble with tight-arse bosses - they under pay you to hell...I work out that the bastard pays me $9.45 an hour...prick!

[wynw]

As a self employed person, I would be glad of $12.75 an hour. 25 years self employment later, I have yet to pay myself the minimum wage. That's the trouble with tight-arse bosses - they under pay you to hell...I work out that the bastard pays me $9.45 an hour...prick!

You are doin ok, thats more than what i get! thinking seriously about going back to having paid holidays again!!!

[Mully]

As a self employed person, I would be glad of $12.75 an hour. 25 years self employment later, I have yet to pay myself the minimum wage. That's the trouble with tight-arse bosses - they under pay you to hell...I work out that the bastard pays me $9.45 an hour...prick!

Take yourself to the ERA....

[slofox]

Take yourself to the ERA....

European Research Area?

[kwaka_crasher]

As a self employed person, I would be glad of $12.75 an hour. 25 years self employment later, I have yet to pay myself the minimum wage. That's the trouble with tight-arse bosses - they under pay you to hell...I work out that the bastard pays me $9.45 an hour...prick!

You're doing something very wrong...

[slofox]

You're doing something very wrong...

Nah...I'm doing EVERYTHING wrong...

[zeocen]

Counting your chickens before they hatch?

It aint the best this side of being a civillian.

But it aint bad either with this here recession still clinging around.

Whenuapai?

[Mully]

Whenuapai?

Bless you.

[mynameis]

Apparently, the Maori party wanted an increase to $15/h too.

Cos apparently, two thirds of Maori earn below the median income.

No no no you heard it wrong two thirds of Maori are on doll which obviously is below the minimum wage

[SPman]

As a self employed person, I would be glad of $12.75 an hour. 25 years self employment later, I have yet to pay myself the minimum wage. That's the trouble with tight-arse bosses - they under pay you to hell...I work out that the bastard pays me $9.45 an hour...prick!

One could say that you are martyring yourself for a lifestyle. If you can't earn a minimum wage for yourself after 25 yrs of self employment, I'd say you are doing something seriously wrong and should get a job where you can earn a living wage! Which, in NZ,seems to be harder and harder to do! Not bitch about it because others could get more!

Two thirds of maori are earning money rather than getting handouts - I'm fucking amazed by that stat...

Then you'd be a fuckwitted bigot then, wouldn't you! Most Maori I know earn above the average wage, through their intelligence, skills and abilities - contrary to the popular belief reinforced by sensationalist media and talk back radio, that all Maori are lazy, dumb, aggressive money sucking leeches doing their best to destroy valiant Pakeha superiority!.


Under the last Labour government the minimum wage increased by 70% over nine years, yet unemploment halved in that time. If people are worried about the minimum wage being too close to the average wage, maybe they should do something about raising the average wage instead of acting like survivors trying to cling to a rope and kicking off those below them who are trying to hold on, rather than climbing up the rope.....