Haiti - A disaster in waiting?

**Winston001** · 27th January 2010, 17:43

The tragic earthquake in Haiti continues to take it's toll. The lack of infrastructure and any organised civil defence structure is brought home to us nightly on television. I can't imagine what it is like for these people.

So, with some misgiving, I have to wonder how such a disaster could have been reduced in scale and effect.

Haiti is an island nation with a land area 1/10th that of New Zealand. Within that area live more than 9 million people. In abject poverty.

What the heck are 9 million people doing trying to squeeze out an existence there? Its impossible. Haiti is the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere.

Maybe - just maybe, we need to start talking and doing something about world overpopulation.

**Mully** · 27th January 2010, 17:46

Woo, this thread should take off

Originally Posted by Winston001

Maybe - just maybe, we need to start talking and doing something about world overpopulation.

What did you have in mind?

**JimO** · 27th January 2010, 18:03

Originally Posted by Winston001

The tragic earthquake in Haiti continues to take it's toll. The lack of infrastructure and any organised civil defence structure is brought home to us nightly on television. I can't imagine what it is like for these people.

So, with some misgiving, I have to wonder how such a disaster could have been reduced in scale and effect.

Haiti is an island nation with a land area 1/10th that of New Zealand. Within that area live more than 9 million people. In abject poverty.

What the heck are 9 million people doing trying to squeeze out an existence there? Its impossible. Haiti is the poorest country in the Western Hemisphere.

Maybe - just maybe, we need to start talking and doing something about world overpopulation.

what can we do about it, from what i see poverty breeds children if i was dictator of the world i would have all poor people sterilised, and all bad/violent people killed- like most of our maori population

**mashman** · 27th January 2010, 18:07

Originally Posted by Winston001

Maybe - just maybe, we need to start talking and doing something about world overpopulation.

You need to do 1 crucial thing before that though. Don't you?

**Okey Dokey** · 27th January 2010, 18:45

Overpopulation is THE issue to me, too. No, you don't address it through eugenics and mass sterlization- sorry, I know it is tempting looking at the stats. Education and access to contraception for women, and the issue resolves itself quite often.

That terrorist, GW Bush sabotaged a lot of good work in this area with his fundamentalist Christian crap.

**Winston001** · 27th January 2010, 19:04

Originally Posted by jimjim

what can we do about it, from what i see poverty breeds children if i was dictator of the world i would have all poor people sterilised, and all bad/violent people killed- like most of our maori population

It is a complex and delicate problem. The primal drive to have children is about as fundamental as you can get. Talking about population control is too sensitive at the political level, yet we condemn millions of children to starvation and disease by pretending not to notice they are born.

What can we do? Individually we can talk about it to other people and spread ideas. Nationally and at the UN level, how about tying aid to a requirement that nations work on population control. Admittedly that's damned hard when people are dying at your feet.

**paturoa** · 27th January 2010, 19:10

I watched that re-run doco / film last week about a big quake in Welly. Can't help but think we be severly "rogered" with a big-un in one of our main cities too.

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**Winston001** · 27th January 2010, 19:39

Originally Posted by paturoa

I watched that re-run doco / film last week about a big quake in Welly. Can't help but think we be severly "rogered" with a big-un in one of our main cities too.

Ah - nothing, absolutely nothing like what is happening in Haiti. My wife is involved in Civil Defence and there are whole systems in place in NZ for exactly this type of disaster. In Haiti there is no organisation to cope.

**Maha** · 27th January 2010, 19:55

Originally Posted by Mully

Woo, this thread should take off
What did you have in mind?

Didnt the Haitians discover AIDS ?
So they have done thier part.

**peasea** · 27th January 2010, 20:06

Originally Posted by Okey Dokey

Overpopulation is THE issue to me, too. No, you don't address it through eugenics and mass sterlization- sorry, I know it is tempting looking at the stats. Education and access to contraception for women, and the issue resolves itself quite often.

That terrorist, GW Bush sabotaged a lot of good work in this area with his fundamentalist Christian crap.

Like this you mean?

**JimO** · 27th January 2010, 20:10

the people over there need the food thats stacked up in the warehouses not some guy in NZ having a few hrs without tucker

**peasea** · 27th January 2010, 20:14

Originally Posted by Winston001

It is a complex and delicate problem.

No it isn't. Get masturbating, problem solved.

OR! Shoot all the religious nutters, darkies, asians, indians, spiks, dagos, wops, (notice I didn't use the word 'gook'?) and door to door sales people, used car sales people and tele marketers.

Job done.