Highway 75 ChCh - Speed trap - Thanks and get f***ked

[red mermaid]

Riding with your headlight on.

[GOONR]

Ok, so I have been reading for 6 pages now...will someone please tell us all what the signal is (while I'm on my bike) for warning another rider that there's a cop ahead...!?

It's simple, wave with both hands whilst sticking out your right foot.

[{.bLanK}G_o_D]

My mother doesn't 'do' pimple faced teen aged virgins. Talking of mothers...does yours know you're on her computer when you should be doing your homework?

As far as you know she doesn't.

[{.bLanK}G_o_D]

Dam double post

[Molly]

Well, this has been fun. Lots of people posting replies to postings they haven't read properly. Doesn't take long for it to all turn to bullshit. Anyway, I've better things to do.

If anybody wants to catch up face-to-face to discuss the finer points, we've a regular ride organised through the forum at: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...de-meet-(Ch-ch)

Otherwise, ride safe and try not to think with your mouth.

Molly.

[smoky]

Why do we have a speed limit?
Honestly, why; I mean the idea, the spirit in which the law was scribed and adopted, was so we can all travel around and get to where we're wanting to get to in an orderly fashion, with out endangering others.

the rules were made to enforce the rights of others and protect road users, pedestrians and so on.
However our pathetic nanny state has trained and incentivised neolithic power hungry pricks and given them some false sense of moral crusade to save us from our selves. It's all part of controlling and repressing the masses to conform under a blanket of socialistic moral ideology. The traffic police have lost sight of the spirit of the law, have forgotten they are servants of the public, and become a tool of the power mongers, they police and entrap way past the spirit of the law to a level that brings scorn, and a feeling of miss-aligned justice. Especially considering the number of outstanding crimes, un-investigated crimes, police corruption, and revenue gathering tactics. The wankers who practice such things as 'fishing' at the end of passing lanes, change of speed zones, free flowing motorway traffic ........ bla bla bla
They turn a blind eye to the real causes, to the real problems on the roads and continue to defend their pathtic blind policies.

The sooner some of you wankers on here wake up to the repression and delusion of safety you hold on to the better;
Speed kills? But think about the lack of good roads, poor intersections, old unregistered un warranted vehicles, huge trucks blocking the pathetic narrow roads we call state highways, lack of overtaking lanes, lack of duel carriage ways, drunk drivers, road works that leave death traps for drivers, lack of public transport, how easy it is to get a drivers licences here, just look at the lack of willingness to even discuss the cheese cutter issue. Riding today after all the rain here - I have noticed how many lifestyle blocks have poorly designed driveways where all the dirt and gravel is washed of their drive onto the road, a problem for traffic - do you think they give a toss about it?
Instead they put more and more double yellows/no overtaking lines on the roads, expand 70 & 80 K speed limits out further and further, and pester more motorists - ranting about speed kills.

[maxf]

What abou the original post, or any other, implies any sort of race track behaviour? Any why do you catorgorise every other rider as an "arrogant bastard" ?

Because (a) the original poster appeared arrogant IMHO in assuming that all other riders should follow their code and warn them. Also, keep to the point - I don't categorise "every other rider", just those that get angered by me not taking from them their personal responsibility in their riding.

You appear confused. Why do you regard speedinf as acceptable if the rider has a radar detector, but not other wise ?

I don't, and didn't say this... I pointed out that even if they want to speed, the detector will likely end up being useless anyway (the comment on the laser pulsing). Again, if Molly wants to ride at speeds at which he's worried about tickets, then my humble advice would be to have a detector and save the distraction of his anger at others for not signalling for concentrating better on the ride....

Again, you are putting your own extreme and unjustofoed construction on matters.
...
You appear to regard any other rider as an enemy . Why are you so hostile to other riders?

ROFLMAO here - that's got to be the pot calling the kettle black, mate.

I rather suspect that you may be paret of the reaosn why an organisation such as BRONZ is necessary.

Oh dear. Well, that's $20 saved... if my advocating riders use personal responsibility and respect for other road users (and the laws in effect) is why BRONZ needs to exist, then we obviously agree on something - that our views on "bikers" and "rights" are poles apart.

Again - why do you regard speeding if protected by a radar detectror as acceptable, but not otherwise.

Again - again - see comment above. Why do you keep reinforcing your own twist on anything anyone says that doesn't agree with your argument?

ANd why, if you never speed, do you need such a powerful motorcycle?

Again off topic? Isn't an Uberfarter V a bit too cryptic for you, too?
Cheapest bike I could afford with ABS; required around Chch with buses dripping diesel. Wouldn't consider 100hp for 350kgs too powerful. Also with active cruise, so the power doesn't go to my head. Permission to ride now, headmaster?

Do take care on the road, you never know who's doing their own thing out there - following their rights, y'know?

[smoky]

Again off topic? Isn't an Uberfarter V a bit too cryptic for you, too?

So very much not off topic - every time you puritanical dweebs post on here giving people shit about speeding; people in the real world know right away what kind of person you are - Hypocrites are pathetic

Cheapest bike I could afford with ABS; required around Chch with buses dripping diesel......

Really? ABS helps you does it? required around ChCh huh? That gives most of us some insight into your world

[Oakie]

...will someone please tell us all what the signal is (while I'm on my bike) for warning another rider that there's a cop ahead...!?

Hand above head and rotating (like flashing red/blues)

[Mikkel]

Good for you Helen...but I still think you (and many others) missed the point. A biker should look out for a fellow biker in any way they can. If Molly is dawdling along at 110 kph and gets a speeding ticket...sure it's Molly's fault. But so what? What possible harm was Molly doing to other road users...and why wouldn't we as fellow bikers want to save Molly the $90.00 (or whatever it would be) ticket?, when it's only blatant revenue gathering when the fuckers should be catching criminals?

The real issue, in regards to getting a ridiculous speeding ticket, has nothing to do with bikers (failing) to warn each other of speed traps. It has all to do with ridiculous policing and revenue gathering. There is a very real problem when people have to consider the police an actual road hazard - and the problem isn't always that people are wanting to go too fast!

Why do we have a speed limit?
Honestly, why; I mean the idea, the spirit in which the law was scribed and adopted, was so we can all travel around and get to where we're wanting to get to in an orderly fashion, with out endangering others.

the rules were made to enforce the rights of others and protect road users, pedestrians and so on.
However our pathetic nanny state has trained and incentivised neolithic power hungry pricks and given them some false sense of moral crusade to save us from our selves. It's all part of controlling and repressing the masses to conform under a blanket of socialistic moral ideology. The traffic police have lost sight of the spirit of the law, have forgotten they are servants of the public, and become a tool of the power mongers, they police and entrap way past the spirit of the law to a level that brings scorn, and a feeling of miss-aligned justice. Especially considering the number of outstanding crimes, un-investigated crimes, police corruption, and revenue gathering tactics. The wankers who practice such things as 'fishing' at the end of passing lanes, change of speed zones, free flowing motorway traffic ........ bla bla bla
They turn a blind eye to the real causes, to the real problems on the roads and continue to defend their pathtic blind policies.

The sooner some of you wankers on here wake up to the repression and delusion of safety you hold on to the better;
Speed kills? But think about the lack of good roads, poor intersections, old unregistered un warranted vehicles, huge trucks blocking the pathetic narrow roads we call state highways, lack of overtaking lanes, lack of duel carriage ways, drunk drivers, road works that leave death traps for drivers, lack of public transport, how easy it is to get a drivers licences here, just look at the lack of willingness to even discuss the cheese cutter issue. Riding today after all the rain here - I have noticed how many lifestyle blocks have poorly designed driveways where all the dirt and gravel is washed of their drive onto the road, a problem for traffic - do you think they give a toss about it?
Instead they put more and more double yellows/no overtaking lines on the roads, expand 70 & 80 K speed limits out further and further, and pester more motorists - ranting about speed kills.

You are correct. The real issue is that, these days, the law is being interpreted as a carte blanche to hand out fines and jail terms instead of its actual purpose. The first and only purpose of the law is to protect the citizens against unlawful and accidental damage to themselves or their property. It is a tool, the purpose of which is, to visit just punishment upon the wicked. It is not an excuse to dictate to people how they should live their lives, nor is it intended to facilitate revenue gathering.

People who are in fact engaging in unreasonably risky activities - as such, endangering others or their property - deserve all the punishment that they may receive. Freedom comes with responsibility - that is how it has always been.

[maxf]

Well, this has been fun. Lots of people posting replies to postings they haven't read properly. Doesn't take long for it to all turn to bullshit. Anyway, I've better things to do.

If anybody wants to catch up face-to-face to discuss the finer points, we've a regular ride organised through the forum at: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...de-meet-(Ch-ch)

Otherwise, ride safe and try not to think with your mouth.

Molly.

Agree with that - I've usually been doing the WNR, so if you want to turn up I'll try to give you someone to talk to... also got the GPS if you want an exact speed check (mine was 8% out)... dunno if it would be of interest, your call.

Keep the rubber rolling.

[smoky]

People who are in fact engaging in unreasonably risky activities - as such, endangering others or their property - deserve all the punishment that they may receive. Freedom comes with responsibility - that is how it has always been.

I would not totally agree with that; I don't think they deserve ALL the punishment that they receive, but the punishment should fit the crime and serve as a deterrent to further errant behavior.

Unlike fining the crap out of beneficiaries for driving unregistered cars with no drivers licence, and while the fines mount up the continue to drive, drunk drivers killing people and only getting 6 months suspension of licence...... bla bla bla

[onearmedbandit]

I signal other bikes, heck I even let cagers know, I do it because as a young child (25+yrs ago) I asked my father one day why cars where flashing their headlights at us, and he explained the 'code'. I still do it today, out of habit and aware that it is so easy to creep above the limit. If someone doesn't do it back to me, no big deal, not everyone thinks the same as I do.

As far as being charged with alerting others to a speed trap, I'm sure there was a case going back at least 20yrs now where the police tried charging an elderly chap with 'obstructing police' by sitting up the road with a sign alerting drivers to the speed trap further up the road. I remmber the judge dismissing the case and asking the police why they would want to charge someone for i]helping to lower the speed travelled through the area.[/i].

[Berries]

This one ?

[Miscreant]

If you're speeding you're obviously not giving two f&#cks about the other vehicles on the road.

How do you figure that?
Obviously the speed adds have worked a treat for you and removed your ability to think for yourself.