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    OK, it is a few years ago (pre rule changes), but "back in the day" 2 valve 125's ruled the tracks down south

    I'm #74, Tony Mac on #67 Cam Horgan #23 Eddie #143 Fluffy #100 Russell Bleach #111 Glenn "fiddler" Hayward, and Chris Huddleston (numbers obscured)

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    thats the same today but they are all fxr's
    pitty non could hold a candle to a decent 2 stroke at the bob
    apart from some well ridden cbr150 (and that was only just)

    they dont seam to learn down south (way south. Think the cold get to them)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckets4Me View Post
    thats the same today but they are all fxr's
    pitty non could hold a candle to a decent 2 stroke at the bob
    apart from some well ridden cbr150 (and that was only just)

    they dont seam to learn down south (way south. Think the cold get to them)
    Maybe they just look at the GP results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SS90 View Post
    Erm, I am a little confused, are you saying that Kirk is correct in saying that removing the muffler from a CBR250 will (not only increase power), but, also increase it by 7 to 8 HP.....because I can see at least 2 things wrong with that statement.

    I realise that you have a reputation for "shit stirring".........
    I'm shit stirring? How so?

    K14 very succesfully races buckets, campaigned at the pointy end of the Nationals in 125 GP despite his lankyness and now is holding his own in F3. As I said, he's knows a thing or two about making bikes go quick. I think you may have missed the subtleties.

    Look Einstein, anybody that thinks a 250 IL4 is going to gain a 10% power gain by removing the muffler is a fucking idiot. We know that.

    Someone who raves about how much better his 4 stroke goes after he pulled the muffler off, does not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash View Post
    I'm shit stirring? How so?

    K14 very succesfully races buckets, campaigned at the pointy end of the Nationals in 125 GP despite his lankyness and now is holding his own in F3. As I said, he's knows a thing or two about making bikes go quick. I think you may have missed the subtleties.
    I too "raced at the pointy end" of 125's....for 3 straight years even got on the podium a few times....... 250's for a while, C.A.M.S, B.E.A.R.S buckets for even longer ...... as well as many other "credentials" (just to make you aware)

    The whole idea is to get these young guys to actually learn what they write, rather than just either "buy there way to the top", or simply repeat verbatim what they gleam off the web.

    The latter one really gets my back up actually.

    But, just to clarify, are you saying that K14 was being sarcastic when he claimed such a large (actually any) power gain?

    I feel this is an important point, because, from what I have seen and heard from the past "big meets" (I can't attend, I live in Europe) there are some serious power deficits between the North Island guys and the South Island guys,(with the advantage going south) yet so much of the "talk" comes from the North, which was the opposite of the way I thought it would be.

    I want to encourage these guys to take examples from the bucket racers of 20 years ago, who actually MADE their own stuff, rather than buying it from the internet.

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    We're on the same page then, good stuff

    To clarify, yes, my good mate K14 would most definitely have been being a sarcastic little prick when he stated the expected horsepower gain from a muffler removal.

    As to your point regarding the power sway between the two islands, I know nothing as I'm not involved in the Bucket scene although young Woody has very kindly offered me a rap on his CBR to try it out. However, I would expect that the big reason for the power differential is driven by the fact that the SI guys commonly race on real race tracks, whereas the NI guys dont. Simply put, little bikes on big tracks need big gearing. To pull big gearing the riders are more likely to go looking for more power.

    When you say the "talking" comes from the North, I'd say it's due to a couple of protagonists, who are mostly yet to complete puberty and actually know nothing about tuning other than how to start Google up and grab a credit card.

    Way I see it, all is in fun and this is the internet. Wether people want to take anyone elses seriously or not is of little consequence, as it's on the track where the bullshit stops.
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    Look I know I have been a bit scathing about the taking the muffler off marlarky so I’ve had to eat humble pie when I took the substantial one off the Van. It sounds like a V8! On the drive to work some girls even looked in my direction, I’m pretty sure they were getting wet like I read in a magazine once. So I hooked up a squweely & it spun all the way into 4th.

    I’m not sure how many extra horsies it has, but when I parked it at work I noticed quite a pile of do-do formed under it, clearly those horses are just packed in there!
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    Oh Dave, you're my heeeero!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Look I know I have been a bit scathing about the taking the muffler off marlarky so I’ve had to eat humble pie when I took the substantial one off the Van. It sounds like a V8! On the drive to work some girls even looked in my direction, I’m pretty sure they were getting wet like I read in a magazine once. So I hooked up a squweely & it spun all the way into 4th.

    I’m not sure how many extra horsies it has, but when I parked it at work I noticed quite a pile of do-do formed under it, clearly those horses are just packed in there!


    Fuck off you. This is a thread about diesel tuning.

    And you live in the NI anyway, so you're all talk and your bikes make no power. SS said so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket View Post
    Oh Dave, you're my heeeero!!
    See guys? It even works from here!!

    + all gurls like horsies.

    yer just jealous jimmy, my HiAce against your Taxi any time laddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    Look I know I have been a bit scathing about the taking the muffler off marlarky so I’ve had to eat humble pie when I took the substantial one off the Van. It sounds like a V8! On the drive to work some girls even looked in my direction, I’m pretty sure they were getting wet like I read in a magazine once. So I hooked up a squweely & it spun all the way into 4th.

    I’m not sure how many extra horsies it has, but when I parked it at work I noticed quite a pile of do-do formed under it, clearly those horses are just packed in there!
    That's just another day for me.

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    What? Shovelling horse mess?
    See trashy that's how you do it
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    Quote Originally Posted by White trash View Post
    Fuck off you. This is a thread about diesel tuning.

    And you live in the NI anyway, so you're all talk and your bikes make no power. SS said so

    SS90! This is how ya shit stir
    That's great! I didn't have the balls to say it, and now you did it for me......are their Mum's fat too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by F5 Dave View Post
    See guys? It even works from here!!

    + all gurls like horsies.

    yer just jealous jimmy, my HiAce against your Taxi any time laddy
    In fact I may just go an take one of my bikes out in the hope that it'll destroy itself so that I can ring you for assistance!

    You'd come pick me up in *that* van, wouldn't you?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SS90 View Post
    That's great! I didn't have the balls to say it, and now you did it for me......are their Mum's fat too?
    We draw the line at talking about each others mums in the NI. There's a little thing called common decency although I hear the Southerners have been seen with the occasional goat from time to time.
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