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Fantasy is where everything goes exactly to plan.
Reality is where nothing works out quite like the plot in the fantasy!
I have to say, 46 years married to Mrs oldrider has been fun!
What a journey, no one ever said it would be "easy" but it sure has been worth it!(and we both say that too)
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Nice simple, black and white lil' world you live in there mate, I'm almost envious.....almost.
Who knows what arrangement he had with his wife, and what their boundaries and/or background were. With all the judgemental types around who think everyone should mirror their perfectly average lives the wife is hardly gonna admit to any arrangement outside the norm is she? Bottom line is we know nothing, but people are still quick to jump to all sorts of judgements and conclusions, farkin' typical.
"You reap what you sow" therefore extra-marital sex is punishable by death? Christ I'd hate to see you as a parking warden.........
The magic is in the rubbing.
ran out of bling, but I love this post.
Yet, he who has not sinned cast the first stone!
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I understand your point, but you perhaps miss mine. People are quite free to choose their path in life and you always hear the cry, "As long as you're not hurting anyone, what does it matter?" People are so selfish that they blindly ignore the fact that they are 'hurting others'. Playing around with the types he obviously was with was placing both himself and his wife in danger, whether she was aware of it or not - and it appears she most likely wasn't - and if she was she was placing herself and her children at risk - so yes 'hurting' others as is always the case with infidelity.
People like to fool themselves, (for their own sexual gratification), that they are fine and everything is dandy. Then when it all turns to custard it's never their fault of course...
You do reap what you sow, sooner or later, (heard of Karma?), and I have no sypmathy for those who knowingly choose to do selfish, unhealthy things that endanger their own lives and especially the lives of those they may claim to love. He put himself in that position and he paid the ultimate price, end of story.
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Unfortunately I can't rep you again just yet, but good post! After 32 years I shall say I'm happily married. No, not always easy and we've had our moments for sure, but we stuck it out and stuck to each other and we're reaping the rewards. We don't argue over anything, we're relaxed and comfortable with each other, we laugh a lot and she flopped back into bed last night saying, "Take me, I'm yours!"Fantasy is where everything goes exactly to plan.
Reality is where nothing works out quite like the plot in the fantasy!
I have to say, 46 years married to Mrs oldrider has been fun!
What a journey, no one ever said it would be "easy" but it sure has been worth it!
Heck, what more could a man want?
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
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No point in applying your standards and norms to someone elses life, what suits and makes sense to you could be quite the opposite to someone else. Remember that bell curve from school? Life is made up of all types and expecting everyone to conform to one narrow set of parameters is just dreamin'.
Sorry, I don't believe in Karma.. Shit happens for no rhyme or reason. Wankers become extraordinarily successful and genuinely beautiful (spiritually) people die horrible deaths. It fuggin' sux, but that's life.
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I agree, you're not wrong here. All I'm saying is that personal responsibility comes into play and while tragedy is a fact of life, too many choose a path that leads to tragedy unnecessarily.
We are free agents and it is up to us ti educate ourselves and use our intelligence to choose a life course that, while subject to "time and unforseen circumstances" minimises our chances of tragedy at least. Maybe I do abide by a moral code many consider quaint or old-fashioned, but the true fact is that the reason many or most don't abide by the same is for purely selfish reasons and selfish people cannot ever be happy or find the peace in their life that they may wish for.
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
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But I do agree, there's no excuse for playing around and having a secret life. It's the ultimate selfishness and puts the wife at risk to her own health. This seems to be another case of "You reap what you sow" and I have little sympathy, okay, no sympathy for such people.
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It appears to me that you are condemning this man based upon your assumption that he intentionally put anyone at risk.
I suspect more people are killed and hurt riding motorbikes each year than are while "playing away from home" in this fashion, yet by extention you selfishly expose your family to this risk each time you mount up!
Personally I think you simply wanted to preach your holier-than-thou opinion to anyone you hoped might agree and needed to "fudge in" that assumption in order to manufacture a pulpit from which to issue your lecture.
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[QUOTE=Clockwork;1129633522]So you're saying that promiscuous sexual relations is not intentionally putting anyone else at risk? Especially if one is cohorting with the kinds of low-life's who would kill someone?
There's no such thing as "safe promiscuity" and any man who would cheat on his wife, or vise versa for that matter, is inconsiderate and selfish. These days people seem to think that pleasing themselves is a natural right no matter the rights of the other person. You place yourself knowingly at risk of STD's and then passing those on to the innocent party. No-one harmed? Poppycock!
You can scoff and claim that anyone living by a moral code is "holier than thou" but I am not judging him, just pointing out the bleedin' obvious. You make your bed and you lie in it.
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Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
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PS. I ride a bike, I drive a car, I fly in airplanes, one lves in a world where accidents happen. What I don't do is ride/drive in a manner that presents unneccessary risk. I exercise due caution to minimise as much as depends on me, the risk of the activity.
As for family, I put my family before me, when I married I made a commitment to my wife and I love her. That's not being "holier than thou" it's being man enough to do the right thing. Sure, marriages turn sour and fail for a variety of reasons, usually due to a lack of communication/understanding and selfishness. I can remember a time my wife and I were having some difficulties, (okay we were fighting like cats and dogs over something..), and we were talking to an older friend about it. After quietly listening to both sides, he looked at us and simply said, "Where's the love?" He reminded us of what was really important. Loving each other and putting the other ahead of yourself.
Now, for whatever reason, this guy chose to live a life that betrayed his wife abd lead to his death. Why should I sympathise with him?
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
Shorai Powersports batteries are very trick!
Easily wound up!!
Living by your own moral code is admirable, expecting other to live by it is "holier-than-thou"
How can you know he exposed himself to STD's.... how can you even know he had (by choice or otherwise) a sexual realtionship with his wife? How can you know that if he did, he still didn't take precautions to protect her.
And whether you like it or not you are far more likely to die on the road (even driving safely) than at the hands of a muderer you met in a social situation. In fact, your also more likely to be murdered by a member of your own family (just ask Tiger!)
I'm very pleased that you and your spouse have been willing to work together to iron out all the shortcommings in your relationship but it does take two willing parties and maybe he was one party short.
My original point stands, you made assumptions about this man's life and then used them to condemn him. I think that's very sad.
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Well I could argue the point, but if I came across that way it wasn't intentional. I'm reminded of that claim... "If something I say can be taken two ways, and one of those ways upsets you... I meant it the other way.."
You don't get to be an old dog without learning a few tricks.
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