Safety Clothing

[p.dath]

I guess it's fair to assert that some folk have far higher temperature tolerances than others. Mine is fairly narrow. I start feeling seriously cold when the temp drops below 18 degrees, and I feel quite ready to die in 23 degrees.

This may sound dumb, but salt helps with your body's temperature regulation, particularly in heat. Do you have much salt?

[YellowDog]

I guess it's fair to assert that some folk have far higher temperature tolerances than others. Mine is fairly narrow. I start feeling seriously cold when the temp drops below 18 degrees, and I feel quite ready to die in 23 degrees.

Remember the Christmas 2008 circuit at Taupo? The heat was intolerable. I had to wait in the shade of the building, with my jacket right off and pouring water over my head and timing matters so that I was very much last to go through the dummy-grid, have my chin-strap and pack-protector checked, then off into the breeze.

Even the five minute wait on the start grid almost did me in.

You have certainly raised some good points. If you have ever had an accident related to your own errors then I understand your rationale. I have not had many incidents to base my views upon however of the ones I have had, they were all complete shocks and not something that could have been anticipated by riding slower.

I am often quite envious of those whom ride without all the safety gear. But I still won't do it and I bet the one time that I do, I'll come a cropper.

I would advise you to look at what gear you can wear to help deal with the heat issues that you have.

Good luck.

[EJK]

I should wear leathers to bed then......


....just to feel safe

[p.dath]

I should wear leathers to bed then......


....just to feel safe

If it stops your rashes, why not.

[yungatart]

I guess it's fair to assert that some folk have far higher temperature tolerances than others. Mine is fairly narrow. I start feeling seriously cold when the temp drops below 18 degrees, and I feel quite ready to die in 23 degrees.

Dude, this is seriously NOT normal.
Have you had your thyroid function checked?
If not, go and get it done.

[Shadows]

I say, 'Bullshit!'

Protective clothing, on the road, is the biggest con unhung. It protects ONLY AGAINST the most nominal accident, yet it costs a fortune and spoils your day when it's hot.

I fell off at a moderately low speed wearing jeans once.

I then discovered that large itchy pus ridden foul smelling wounds that don't even start to heal until 8 months have passed aren't my cup of tea. Neither is constantly finding pieces of stone chip have worked their way to the skin surface months later and having to pick them out with a needle.

I always wear leathers now.

Shame it sounds like you'll be learning the hard way too.

[dpex]

Good post dpex.


Maybe you should swap your bike for an open top car.

As a mater of fact I have an open topped car. A lil red MX5. In the heat I drive around in a pair of shorts and I'm fine till I have stop at the lights. There the sun busts my head if the roof is down. Put it up and it's like being under a 50 kilowatt solar collector. And so my solution is to carry an umbrella. I stop at the lights and pop the brolly. That way I get shade and airflow.

[dpex]

ah ha......and with you this mindset other road users will follow ?

Bikers mindsets often have little to do with a crash, often its the other guys mindset thats out to fuck ya up

But we all know this right ??

I'm not responsible for anyone else's mindset, quasi, only my own.

And at the end of the day I prefer the John Stuart Mill approach....Have a a deco at his treatise "On Liberty".

It's my body. My Mind. I, like all of you, are entitled to do with them what I wish so long as in the doing I do not purposely cause an evil to the third party.

And no. Don't give me shit about ACC. It was foisted upon me without my permission.

And no. Don't give me shit about family responsibilities. I don't have any. And if I did I would still be entitled to act as I do because my family....as they have in past....accept that I have a right to exist as I wish, as have they.

In past, as I have done all the mad-hatter things I have done, insurance has assured financial security.

'But what about you not being there, as a father?' I hear you scream.

Well. Life is like that. There are no rules upon which one can rely in this life. I could have easily fallen off a roof and broken my neck as I could have had a bike accident dressed in a T. So what should I do to protect my family against a mischance of me ending up maimed or dead?

Never go on a roof? Never try a bungi jump? Never fly in a commercial airliner? Never drive a car? Never ride a pedal bike? Never swim in the surf? Never walk on a crossing or drive a car? Never stop to help a cop who is being assaulted by thugs. Never climb mountains? Never go to hospital lest I should catch the super-bug?

Life is filled with risk, and that risk spreads out from the one to the many like ripples on a pond.

There is no way one can avoid risk anymore than there is any way that one can 'safely' presume what will happen within the next ten seconds. And if you think one can, cast your mind to the 'beliefs' of those, on bikes, whom, ten seconds earlier were simply enjoying the trip till it all went pear-shaped.

You see, we all have a right to continue along this mortal coil as we choose. Others are entirely rightful in cautioning us, advising us, even petitioning us, but none have the right to force us to do with our bodies and minds as 'they' think fit. Despite their best intentions no man has the right to impune an evil on a man who refuses to take good counsel.

If it were the case, then all men would be required to believe in God, or Brahma, or Allah, or the Labour Party.

No. We have the right to choose our course.

In my case, when the clear and present danger of the track is ahead, I'm dressed to the nines in every bit of protective gear I can buy, because I know I'm going to push it to the limit.

But on the road, in the heat, I prefer to take it all very cautiously, dressed in a t and jeans.

Have you ever noticed the California Highway Biker Patrol guys wear nothing but helmets and short-sleeved shirts.

Perhaps the anal retentives should press to have these guys wear full leathers, like we insisted they don't bring their nuclear powered/armed ships down here.

BTW: Has any American, nuclear-something ship melted down, anywhere in the world.

Ya gotta wonder about those who choose an hysterical position and then set about forcing it on others.

[onearmedbandit]

As a mater of fact I have an open topped car. A lil red MX5. In the heat I drive around in a pair of shorts and I'm fine till I have stop at the lights. There the sun busts my head if the roof is down. Put it up and it's like being under a 50 kilowatt solar collector. And so my solution is to carry an umbrella. I stop at the lights and pop the brolly. That way I get shade and airflow.

Ok I don't see any smilies suggesting a piss take, I don't know you so I don't know if you are the type to take the piss, but I really hope you are taking the piss.

[Quasievil]

I'm not responsible for anyone else's mindset, quasi, only my own.

And at the end of the day I prefer the John Stuart Mill approach....Have a a deco at his treatise "On Liberty".

It's my body. My Mind. I, like all of you, are entitled to do with them what I wish so long as in the doing I do not purposely cause an evil to the third party.

And no. Don't give me shit about ACC. It was foisted upon me without my permission.

And no. Don't give me shit about family responsibilities. I don't have any. And if I did I would still be entitled to act as I do because my family....as they have in past....accept that I have a right to exist as I wish, as have they.

In past, as I have done all the mad-hatter things I have done, insurance has assured financial security.

'But what about you not being there, as a father?' I hear you scream.

Well. Life is like that. There are no rules upon which one can rely in this life. I could have easily fallen off a roof and broken my neck as I could have had a bike accident dressed in a T. So what should I do to protect my family against a mischance of me ending up maimed or dead?

Never go on a roof? Never try a bungi jump? Never fly in a commercial airliner? Never drive a car? Never ride a pedal bike? Never swim in the surf? Never walk on a crossing or drive a car? Never stop to help a cop who is being assaulted by thugs. Never climb mountains? Never go to hospital lest I should catch the super-bug?

Life is filled with risk, and that risk spreads out from the one to the many like ripples on a pond.

There is no way one can avoid risk anymore than there is any way that one can 'safely' presume what will happen within the next ten seconds. And if you think one can, cast your mind to the 'beliefs' of those, on bikes, whom, ten seconds earlier were simply enjoying the trip till it all went pear-shaped.

You see, we all have a right to continue along this mortal coil as we choose. Others are entirely rightful in cautioning us, advising us, even petitioning us, but none have the right to force us to do with our bodies and minds as 'they' think fit. Despite their best intentions no man has the right to impune an evil on a man who refuses to take good counsel.

If it were the case, then all men would be required to believe in God, or Brahma, or Allah, or the Labour Party.

No. We have the right to choose our course.

In my case, when the clear and present danger of the track is ahead, I'm dressed to the nines in every bit of protective gear I can buy, because I know I'm going to push it to the limit.

But on the road, in the heat, I prefer to take it all very cautiously, dressed in a t and jeans.

Have you ever noticed the California Highway Biker Patrol guys wear nothing but helmets and short-sleeved shirts.

Perhaps the anal retentives should press to have these guys wear full leathers, like we insisted they don't bring their nuclear powered/armed ships down here.

BTW: Has any American, nuclear-something ship melted down, anywhere in the world.

Ya gotta wonder about those who choose an hysterical position and then set about forcing it on others.

Sheesh dude, you a bit pent up inside ?

Let it all out mate, you will feel better about it (how do ya post smilies on quick reply ?)

[blossomsowner]

i wear leathers.

it is really hot around town at this time of year.

solutuion..........unzip the jacket for the first 3 minutes till i hit the open road.........then zip up with left hand as throttle is wound on with the other.........


don't ride round town!!!!!!!!!

simple

[Jonno.]

Get a mesh jacket. [/Thread]

[R-Soul]

I guess you could always ride in shorts no shirt and bare feet if you feel that way, but why should I be expected to pay for your skin grafts from your sliding down the road, oh it happens to the lycra louts too, seen it up close and real personal.

Yup, a mate of mine went down on a bicycle at a paltry 70kph - think "40% of body" road rash, and salt baths to disinfect the total area that sting like hell, and festering scabs for months.

I have just recently got a proper set of 2 piece leathers. And I was considering whether to replace my normal commuting touring jacket and rain pants for commuting with these. The fact is that when I ride in the leathers, I feel a lot less anxious, and can enjoy the ride more. Riding in anything less makes me feel exposed now.

[R-Soul]

I should wear leathers to bed then......


....just to feel safe

You dont!!?

EEEK!

You know what they say about safe sex...

[R-Soul]

Ok I don't see any smilies suggesting a piss take, I don't know you so I don't know if you are the type to take the piss, but I really hope you are taking the piss.

Actually from the other posts, I think you should take your leathers off, and go and stand in front of the fridge for 20 minutes...

Actually thinking about it, I am now not so sure the racing leathers incident was all heat related...