Round 4 AMCC Champs 7 March

[dave o]

graham lance, number 16 on a fzr1000

[Toast]

Shit, I missed that one! Was it exiting from the hill? The guy ok?

[Toast]

And well run meeting, AMCC, thanks!

What a stunning day for racing, a shame that there weren't more out there!

[dave o]

Shit, I missed that one! Was it exiting from the hill? The guy ok?

i was on the dummy grid. turned around as he was sliding on the grass, the bike wobbled its way down the straight from near the bridge and went into the wall just at the pit exit/where the marshall was standing.
he broke his thumb. apparently he hit the start of the rumble strip and there was a bit of a height difference between the grass and the strip. took a chunk of his front wheel out (75mmx50mm section missing) and his back rim has a huge bend in it too. not sure if thats from hitting the wall or the strip though.

[White trash]

Unfortunately, the thread starter (and flaggie) was collected by the riderless bike.

Tough old bitch that she is, she's mostly fine. I see physiotherapy in her future though

[cmoore]

thanks dave o, i couldn't for the life of me work out how he did it...mind you i couldn't work out why the marshall just stood there!!....the bike ran on it's own for 50-75m.....and hit the barrier at the flags...then hit the marshall.....she just stood and watched.....it was like one of those slow motion train wrecks.....im glad he is ok, he took a bit of a tumble...

[cmoore]

for all you guys who did race, thanks, i have marshalled a few times out there and this was my first time just having a wander and watching...it was very cool, it is a shame more people don't go to watch. I found everyone i talked to very freindly and interesting. some of the racing was a bit confusing with the mix of classes....and the first post classic senior race was being led by number 28 with one lap to go... and then niumber 15 won......i still don't know what happened to #28....

[yungatart]

Unfortunately, the thread starter (and flaggie) was collected by the riderless bike.

A number of PMCC marshalls willl not marshall at AMCC events any more, because we were expected to put ourselves in the firing line, by marshalling trackside rather than in the flag point.
I hate to say we told you so, but we told you so. A dangerous practice that only confirms my (and others) initial misgivings.

[dave o]

does anyone have any photos from the weekend? either art day or the sunday?
cheers, dave

[cmoore]

Im not sure what you mean, the Puki flagging points are very safe and the marshalls are generally very good?, i just assume like all vollunteer groups they are a bunch of well meaning people doing their best, my only comment would be more training...i don't know that any amount of training would have helped on sunday...she just froze.....i don't think she should be in that position....although im sure she would say she is fine...

[malcy25]

A number of PMCC marshalls willl not marshall at AMCC events any more, because we were expected to put ourselves in the firing line, by marshalling trackside rather than in the flag point.
I hate to say we told you so, but we told you so. A dangerous practice that only confirms my (and others) initial misgivings.

1) So you saw what happened then?
2) having ridden at so many events at Pukekohe I stopped counting a number of years ago, I must have missed something? So tell me exactly where are the flag marshall stations which are NOT protected by guard rails etc? I don't recall any in the 100 laps I did this weekend and at the speed I get accused of travelling at, I get plenty of viewing time....

Dave O: www.highside.co.nz for Sat photos. No sure on Sunday's event.

[Gremlin]

yungatart has an axe to grind, that's all. That marshal just needs more time at normal points, so her first reactions aren't to freeze. Number one factor I tell all new marshals, your own safety is top priority.

[sinfull]

yungatart has an axe to grind, that's all. That marshal just needs more time at normal points, so her first reactions aren't to freeze. Number one factor I tell all new marshals, your own safety is top priority.

Sorry Gremlin, Tart has a valid point there ! they wont marshall for AMCC because they're expected to stand in positions that put them in the firing line !

She and others made this point some time ago and what happens, a flaggy gets mowed down by riderless bike ! I mean what the fuck is that shit ? No one should be in a position that they have to jump out of the way if the shit goes down !
Learn not to freeze ???
If puke doesn't have flaggy points where the flaggies are protected while they do their job, then some should be built, not teach the flaggies to jump !

Hope ya aint too battered up there Billie

[yungatart]

Sorry Gremlin, Tart has a valid point there ! they wont marshall for AMCC because they're expected to stand in positions that put them in the firing line !

She and others made this point some time ago and what happens, a flaggy gets mowed down by riderless bike ! I mean what the fuck is that shit ? No one should be in a position that they have to jump out of the way if the shit goes down !
Learn not to freeze ???
If puke doesn't have flaggy points where the flaggies are protected while they do their job, then some should be built, not teach the flaggies to jump !

Hope ya aint too battered up there Billie

My thoughts exactly, Sinfull. I guess having my own safety as a toip priority, then that of my husband and fellow flaggies, gives me an axe to grind, then bring it on! Grind my axe I will! That is an accident that need never have happened, all because some folk don't listen to others who have been in the game much longer!

[Toot Toot]

The flag points at Pukekohe are at V8 Supercar standard, the concrete bunker "foxholes" surrounded by steel mesh on the "incoming" side. I wasnt at this meetng but cant understand how someone got hit? Did the bike fly up over the concrete bunker??? Or was the flaggie not using them?