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    i am not attacking you here, i just don't want to see you make a costly mistake. you may think you are ready for a pro twin but after watching you at the TRRS and pacific club round at manfield i don't think you are ready. wait until you are of a similar pace of tyler and ryan firn. once you reach there speed you will be ready. you may not realise ti but the 150s teach you heaps about corner speed and other race craft

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyster View Post
    I've been coaching 13 t0 17 year olds for about 7 years now and the ones that learned all they can on a 150 before progressing to 125GP or pro twin do quite well. Of the ones who haven't completed this
    "apprenticeship" about nine out of ten fail big time. And it hurt, the pocket, body and most importantly,
    the confidence. Woody, if you've got the money for a pro twin, you've got the money to travel about
    and put yourself through some tough and skill developing Streetstock competition this year. You're only
    15, plenty of time yet. Get yourself down south so you can race with your peers (about 40 of them)
    and see if you can win the Sport Fotoz Cup 2010. If you win that, then we ALL know you're ready.
    Sounds ridiculous? No, not really, many Aucklanders commute to the SI for Streetstock. Avalon did,
    ask her what it's like, and how important it was for her.
    Ask your club for support, La Salle Carr (Classic Register) got it to travel down here in January
    for the nationals Streetstock support class. He learnt a HUGE amount.
    Totally agree with that. If you are wanting to do well and be at the pointy end you have to do the hard yards first. Racing in 150's and then 125GP is the only way (imo) to get to be a well rounded rider. If you jump straight onto a pro twin all you will do is be disappointed. Riding in 150s for another few years along with buckets will teach you the skills you need to do well on the bigger bikes when you decide you are good enough to move up.

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    I agree DONT go hopping on a 650 too early. I let Ants loose on the SV & 675 which he rode very well during last season and we had someone who was ready to buy him a 600/1000 (i kid you not).He to thought he might be "too good" for ss150............. untill he did the nats....now he is chomping at the bit to ride the RG next year and have a "learning year" onthe SV (and it will be)
    Take advice from oyster..come and race the guys & girls down here if ya want convincing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xr-rider View Post
    i am not attacking you here, i just don't want to see you make a costly mistake. you may think you are ready for a pro twin but after watching you at the TRRS and pacific club round at manfield i don't think you are ready. wait until you are of a similar pace of tyler and ryan firn. once you reach there speed you will be ready. you may not realise ti but the 150s teach you heaps about corner speed and other race craft
    well im just as fast as the firns when we race buckets........as i said before i dont feel comfotable on the ss150 bike......

    For some reason this thread a turned into? should i go ot pro-twins?, id rather ride my cbr125 in ss150 for a whole season then on my krr...... also i cant do another season, because i cant get to manfeild to the winter series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodyracer View Post
    . also i cant do another season, because i cant get to manfeild to the winter series.
    Why?
    "Some people are like clouds, once they fuck off, it's a great day!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket View Post
    Why?
    parents too busy......its 5.30 hours from auckland.....id rather jsut ride buckets throguth the winter, then ride pukekehe,hampton downs,taupo in the summer.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodyracer View Post
    parents too busy......its 5.30 hours from auckland.....id rather jsut ride buckets throguth the winter, then ride pukekehe,hampton downs,taupo in the summer.....
    Fair enough. Thought about asking someone for a lift? There are normally a few from Akld that come down. Also, not having a dig here but the cost of one winter series on the SS150 bike, plus petrol entry fees etc will still cost you less than the price of just buyng pro-twin bike without including the cost of tyres etc etc...

    Have you ever tried an RG150? They are a much bigger bike and you may feel better racing one of those than the KR. You could sell your KR for much more than what you'd buy an RG and then you could use the 'savings' to race a whole series on the RG and learn a shit load!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Str8 Jacket View Post
    Fair enough. Thought about asking someone for a lift? There are normally a few from Akld that come down. Also, not having a dig here but the cost of one winter series on the SS150 bike, plus petrol entry fees etc will still cost you less than the price of just buyng pro-twin bike without including the cost of tyres etc etc...

    Have you ever tried an RG150? They are a much bigger bike and you may feel better racing one of those than the KR. You could sell your KR for much more than what you'd buy an RG and then you could use the 'savings' to race a whole series on the RG and learn a shit load!
    well my cbr125, is gettign close to ss150 bike speed......so i could jsut race that instread, the pro-twin is to race next season and some track-days over the winter, im not planning on racing pro-twins til the road race spectacualr....im jsut goign to get a bike and sort it out ect.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodyracer View Post
    well my cbr125, is gettign close to ss150 bike speed......so i could jsut race that instread, the pro-twin is to race next season and some track-days over the winter, im not planning on racing pro-twins til the road race spectacualr....im jsut goign to get a bike and sort it out ect.....
    I agree with the others Max, a pro-twin would be fun, but you would be missing a load of race-craft. Helz is right too - you may be way more comfortable on a RG150. How about just getting a Hyo 250? That gives you the feel you want in a class all about race craft, where you can compare yourself well to others of your age and experience. Also you don't have to worry about licnence despensation etc and they are FAR cheaper to run. On the Pro Twin, you will be needing tyres pretty frequently - can you handle the cost of that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayRacer37 View Post
    I agree with the others Max, a pro-twin would be fun, but you would be missing a load of race-craft. Helz is right too - you may be way more comfortable on a RG150. How about just getting a Hyo 250? That gives you the feel you want in a class all about race craft, where you can compare yourself well to others of your age and experience. Also you don't have to worry about licnence despensation etc and they are FAR cheaper to run. On the Pro Twin, you will be needing tyres pretty frequently - can you handle the cost of that?

    Jay
    i guess you could be right, i was told pro-twins didnt go through tires tho??, Kens 250 is good and all but there isnt enogh of them yet.....want some close tight racing,

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodyracer View Post
    well my cbr125, is gettign close to ss150 bike speed......
    tui ad anyone??

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    Quote Originally Posted by k14 View Post
    tui ad anyone??
    ..ahha thats where your wrong..ahaha, since you can run 125gp slicks, race cams,high comp piston, racign exhaust system.....for me personly i think its a faster bike for me to ride...it handles alot better

    Anyway Non of you have actualy seen me ride my cbr......its funny that........

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    mate no one is taking it away from you guys like Jay and that have alot of experience and yes the 650 will chew tires up so be it not fast but the bigger bike a tire that has gone off can be pretty freaky they slide around plus the 650 is a very heavy bike and you dont learn as much my best learning years were streetstock and 125gp then pro twin I used as a progression not to learn how to race but how to race a bigger bike but without as much power as a 600 and now I have stepped through to 600 racing,

    DOnt rush things I did and it slowed me down as you have to learn all over again how to ride and when you crash you get alot of confidence knocked, and yeah the Hyosung Pro twin 250 idea could be good as you could get used to the Hyosung for a season or so then upgrade to the 650 and have a similar chassis etc just alot more power.

    DOnt rush yourself practice makes perfect and some days I still wish I was racing streetstock its a very good class for learning basic race craft
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    Ok, if i think im ready then im ready to give it a go, ive crashed before.......thats not new to me, That migth of been oyur best years but to be honest if my ss150 bike was the only bike i had to ride id sell it and get into gokarts......i dont enjoy riding it.

    Remember, this thread didnt start with "should i geting to pro-twins" , i know oyu are jsut tryign ot be hlepful, but it seems people of KB are wrong alot...i tend to not ask "if i sohudl od soemthign" anymore....

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodyracer View Post
    well im just as fast as the firns when we race buckets........as i said before i dont feel comfotable on the ss150 bike......

    For some reason this thread a turned into? should i go ot pro-twins?, id rather ride my cbr125 in ss150 for a whole season then on my krr...... also i cant do another season, because i cant get to manfeild to the winter series.
    to me there is a big difference in buckets and ss150s. try an rg out.

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