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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    I've yet to see a proper mushroom plug fail if it's been correctly installed and they are a permanent repair
    Designed for car tyres not a motorcycle tyre. The mushroom doesn't fail but the adhesive does and since when have punctures been of a perfectly cylindrical shape? never and the stems of mushroom plugs are round


    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    They're designed for tubeless repair and if done right will not lose adhesion, most common mistake is not letting the "glue" dry off properly which is normally a minimum 3 minutes before applying the repair unit, they should also have a sealer applied over top once they're in place
    The adhesive doesn't cure into the tyre surface ever so it'll never be a permanent seal; the adhesive only lasts so long then it peels like gladwrap off the inner skin of a tyre.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    Same situation as above, a flat patch of the correct type could be used, to do it properly a stem seal should also be used with it, most places just use any old type of patch they have lying around a lot of which aren't suitable for the application
    In Theory, but in the real world that's like rocking horse poo



    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    Very few places vulcanise now, probably due to the fact it is a slower repair method
    Any reputable tyre outfit has access to getting it done, joys of the modern era... want it yesterday attitude

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    I was ment to take it to work today, working up north for four days, taking it tomorrow.

    I will be gettin' me one of them thar repair kits.
    Im tight also, but I thought that $35 was brilliant even allowing for the fact that they came and got the bike.
    i think thats a good deal. ALso I had a puncture in my PR2 back in June last year, and although I apparently had another small hole too close to my nail hole for them to fix, I put up with a small leak since then. I'm putting new tyre on this week. I carried on wearing out the tyre as it was only a couple of months old when I got my puncture.

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    I think we'll have to disagree on a lot of this

    Quote Originally Posted by T.W.R View Post
    Designed for car tyres not a motorcycle tyre. The mushroom doesn't fail but the adhesive does and since when have punctures been of a perfectly cylindrical shape? never and the stems of mushroom plugs are round
    Minicombi A3 are designed for motorcycle use and meet the German TUV standards, the correct reamer should be run through from the outside to clean up the repair area and the inside needs to be buffed before any glue is applied, I've used these on Motorcycle tyres quite a few times and haven't seen one fail yet

    One other thing though is you can only apply them so many degrees either side of the centre, otherwise they're in an area more prone to flex which can lead to failure

    Quote Originally Posted by T.W.R View Post
    The adhesive doesn't cure into the tyre surface ever so it'll never be a permanent seal; the adhesive only lasts so long then it peels like gladwrap off the inner skin of a tyre.
    The wrong adhesive is being used if thats the case or the surface isn't prepared properly or they're just cheap rubbish

    Quote Originally Posted by T.W.R View Post
    Any reputable tyre outfit has access to getting it done, joys of the modern era... want it yesterday attitude
    They may have access but I think you'd be surprised just how few do any vulcanising at a retail store level
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    :slap: No disagreement but you're thinking in a perfect world or you're own wee world of euphoria..... as I'd said on one of the replys all you've said is in theory and it just doesn't happen with any regularity out there in the everyday world.
    I seen plenty of botch repairs of tyres from trucks,farm impliments, cars, motorcycles, quads etc and of all repairs the only permanent repair is vulcanising.
    Access as in Access to getting the vulcanising done is different to doing it on site

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.W.R View Post
    but you're thinking in a perfect world or you're own wee world of euphoria
    No, just the world/industry I work in

    I can give you some lessons if you'd like
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    No, just the world/industry I work in

    I can give you some lessons if you'd like
    :slap: and you're forgetting where I was working and what part of our staple income was; and with our location imagine the amount and variety puncture repairs we dealt with, and guess who had to do the majority of those

    lessons....no thanks, I gave up wearing rose coloured glasses years ago.
    As I said & what you're seemingly unable to comprehend....there isn't disagreement with what you're saying but the truth of the matter is that the proper materials for each application in puncture repair aren't used with any regularlarity by any of the businesses that operate under the veil of that industry........in a perfect world they should but the truth of the matter is that they don't and that's because of supply & demand and speed of turnover......most work like a production line and neglect the proper processes involved

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    Yea Warwick, what do YOU know?

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    Well Boyds fixed my nailed tyre this morning with an internal mushroom plug. The tyre still has about 6000km on it (according to last tyre set anyway). I'll let you know if it goes flat or explodes and kills me, T.W.R...
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    Quote Originally Posted by slofox View Post
    I'll let you know if it goes flat or explodes and kills me, T.W.R...
    Oh that's nice.... you're so considerate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T.W.R View Post
    Oh that's nice.... you're so considerate.
    Any time...

    I WILL let you know if the plug fails though...
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    The thought of a mushroom plug or patch scared the shit out of me........ bike had one in the rear tyre to one side and the tyre was in good nick so thought I would see how it went.
    Still paranoid checking pressure and plug every day - but tyre is being replaced this weekend - and shitting you not have gotten 15,000 kms on it in three months - yes most of this is flat riding but its still had a good thrashing ( chicken strips to the edge ) and its held well.
    Would I do it again????? not by choice but am a tight fisted bastard and with the kms I do like to get my moneys worth.
    Have been surprised by how good they were,

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