Waiheke Island BSE Attack/Hoax???

[soundbeltfarm]

the gloves that we wear when we insem a cow i have a spare with the fuckwits name obasis.n it.
i will have pleasure sticking it over some barbwire and stick the glove up their ass.
already mexico has said our exports there are now restricted ona per load

[Phurrball]

It was Foot and Mouth that they said they'd released and were threatening to release more aparrently. But probably just a hoax.

Aye - quite a difference - Foot and Mouth is a virus (apthavirus I think) and BSE/Mad Cow Disease is caused by a prion (a sort of 'infectious' protein)

My geeky, pedantic $0.02 worth - both would be horrid for NZ (Though not too threatening to human health)

Not nice whichever way you look at it...

[Biff]

My geeky, pedantic $0.02 worth - both would be horrid for NZ (Though not too threatening to human health)

Not nice whichever way you look at it...

BSE is very bad for people’s health. It's a degenerative disease of the brain that eventually leaves people in a vegetative state, before a long drawn out death.

It's cause by eating infected meat produce.

[thehollowmen]

BSE is very bad for people’s health. It's a degenerative disease of the brain that eventually leaves people in a vegetative state, before a long drawn out death.

It's cause by eating infected meat produce.

Yes, and as I pointed out before... what makes this very suspect in my eyes is the news seems to be using these two different diseases interchangably.

BSE is believed (but is so rare and drawn out when I was studying it they still didn't have it confirmed) to cause a varient of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease. CJD is an amaloidosis of the brain caused by the binding of beta sheets in the modified PNP protein. This modified PNP protein can spontaneously fold that way ('clasical' CJD) or be converted by an exogenous protein. The modified PNP protein also folds normal PNP proteins into the modified protein. This is known as a prion disease. There isn't a vaccine because this is a protein we normally have, just folded wrong. If we successfully vaccinated ourselves against it we'd get very sick.

BSE is specific to cattle, scrapie is specific to sheep. CJD, and Kuru are two prion diseases specific to humans.

Foot and mouth disease on the other hand is caused by a pretty little Aphthovirus. Not much to say appart from it spreads easily and does a lot of damage to cattle, sheep, goats and pigs. From memory people don't easily contract this virus, and when they do it is mild. There is a vaccine available.

Any other questions?

[Phurrball]

Yes, and as I pointed out before... what makes this very suspect in my eyes is the news seems to be using these two different diseases interchangably.

BSE is believed (but is so rare and drawn out when I was studying it they still didn't have it confirmed) to cause a varient of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease. CJD is an amaloidosis of the brain caused by the binding of beta sheets in the modified PNP protein. This modified PNP protein can spontaneously fold that way ('clasical' CJD) or be converted by an exogenous protein. The modified PNP protein also folds normal PNP proteins into the modified protein. This is known as a prion disease. There isn't a vaccine because this is a protein we normally have, just folded wrong. If we successfully vaccinated ourselves against it we'd get very sick.

BSE is specific to cattle, scrapie is specific to sheep. CJD, and Kuru are two prion diseases specific to humans.

Foot and mouth disease on the other hand is caused by a pretty little Aphthovirus. Not much to say appart from it spreads easily and does a lot of damage to cattle, sheep, goats and pigs. From memory people don't easily contract this virus, and when they do it is mild. There is a vaccine available.

Any other questions?

Ooh - a Dunnos person with knowledge of virology/biochem - you wouldn't perchance belong to the UoO Biochem or Micro dept would you? Please excuse my spelling of Apthovirus - it's been a yearr or two since I graced those halls...

BSE is very bad for people’s health. It's a degenerative disease of the brain that eventually leaves people in a vegetative state, before a long drawn out death.

It's cause by eating infected meat produce.

This is true - hurrah for vegetarianism!

[thehollowmen]

Ooh - a Dunnos person with knowledge of virology/biochem - you wouldn't perchance belong to the UoO Biochem or Micro dept would you? Please excuse my spelling of Apthovirus - it's been a yearr or two since I graced those halls...

Used to be, MELS person now :-P
How long ago were you there?

[Biff]

Any other questions?

Yes - where do you learn this shite?

This is true - hurrah for vegetarianism!

You're a veggie eh? Good on you!
I've just cooked dinner for a Vegan (no Star Treck jokes here).
As my dyslexic vegan brother would say - repesct.

[Phurrball]

Used to be, MELS person now :-P
How long ago were you there?

I was in micro in Vernon Ward's lab - was last hanging around there regularly in 2002 - drifted from an MSc to a law degree...

Aah - science - I feel deprived sometimes...

Phurrball/Ross

[thehollowmen]

I was in micro in Vernon Ward's lab - was last hanging around there regularly in 2002 - drifted from an MSc to a law degree...

Aah - science - I feel deprived sometimes...

Phurrball/Ross

oh gawd you didn't do any demonstrating did you?

[Phurrball]

oh gawd you didn't do any demonstrating did you?

Yeah, yeah - that'd be me...201/202 and biol115...

Goodtimes...

Tis a small country and a smaller forum...

[Hitcher]

Yes, and as I pointed out before... what makes this very suspect in my eyes is the news seems to be using these two different diseases interchangably.

No news coverage around this latest FMD "hoax" has mentioned BSE or "mad cow disease". Media coverage has, to date, been amazingly balanced and thorough. Here's hoping that it is indeed a hoax.

[thehollowmen]

No news coverage around this latest FMD "hoax" has mentioned BSE or "mad cow disease". Media coverage has, to date, been amazingly balanced and thorough. Here's hoping that it is indeed a hoax.

Stuff.co.nz and an ODT article used BSE and foot and mouth very closely.. I had to re-read them to work out what they were saying. They were trying to correlate the foot and mouth scare with the mad cow disease scare the UK had.

But I had a few people at work pointing at the article thinking they were the same thing, but I've set them straight.

But yeah, a few news articles have lead to a few comments like this:
[QUOTE=tristank]Is he going to open up the big orange box labeled 'MAD CoW DIESeaSSE' and tip it out onto Waiheke?QUOTE]

[thehollowmen]

Yes - where do you learn this shite?

Yeah, yeah - that'd be me...201/202 and biol115...

Right now I've got a bad feeling that Phurrball taught it to me.

*cough*

that and I work in a medical lab

[James Deuce]

Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy

[James Deuce]

No news coverage around this latest FMD "hoax" has mentioned BSE or "mad cow disease". Media coverage has, to date, been amazingly balanced and thorough. Here's hoping that it is indeed a hoax.

There's been some bollocks that I heard Sean Plunket pull someone up on on Tuesday morning.