Assaults on police and the penalty thereof

[peasea]

In all seriousness I'm sure your family and friends would be devastaed.......would certainly upset me.

Sarcasm.....I love the shit.

[peasea]

Thats senior toss pot according to him.

You didn't do that multi-choice test I posted did you? If you had you would have seen that 'tosspot' wasn't an option.

[peasea]

Peasea is a toss pot?

More of a tea pot with my current girth.

[PrincessBandit]

Just been listening to some person (offishul like) on the news spouting about how the police have to earn respect. There are some real arseholes out there who will never respond to the "earning" of any type of respect, let alone for the Police. It's so reassuring that we have all these idiots wanking on about this highly emotive issue treating it like some party game. No matter how exemplary the behaviour of our police force might ever be, crims will still be crims and people will still moan about the pigs.

[SixPackBack]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10629134

Long article outlining the issues coppers face. Chief amongst them seems to be a lack of respect, and a surprising [for me] attitude by the public and courts. I quote the following from the article:

"Conduct such as leaning into an officer's face on a Friday night and snarling "F*** you, pig" is tolerated - by the public, by the media, and by judges who write it off as essentially being "just something police have to put up with" and not serious enough to warrant legal sanction."

I question the officers assertion that individuals behave like that to coppers and get away with it?....either I am very much removed from the real world, or Mr O'connor is being reckless with the truth?...........IMHO coppers should not have to put up with such behavior; furthermore, on the few occasions I have had contact with the police in an official manner, spiting or swearing would have seen me stuffed in the back of the squad car!
For what its worth I feel the following would have an enormous effect on crime:

• A compulsory course entered into by pregnant mothers [and the dad].
• Followed by constant surveillance by plunket [or a similar organization] to keep an eye on the up bringing of all our junior citizens [once every 3 months?...a friendly house call?]

The preceeding will go a long way to sorting out the vast majority of all crimes. The 'nurture' side of the equation is taken care of, and those with dubious 'natures' will be identified.

Within a generation crime will be cut by two thirds.

Fixing the public image of police is also straightforward: Instigate easier methods of removing dodgy coppers. There are two coppers in Hazzard that regularly circumvent the law, behave in a maverick manner and are single handedly responsible for an exceptionally poor opinion of the local coppers. They need to go, and it needs to be far easier for the force to get rid of them.

[Edbear]

From the article...
" We have even had offenders who were caught complaining angrily that police didn't pull out of a chase "like they're supposed to".

When the Police have this mentality to deal with they're on a hiding to nothing.

Another similar article...
http://www.3news.co.nz/Police-sick-o...ticleID=144176

Nowadays they simply cannot talk to and reason with these young criminals who think they have every right to do and say as they please without consequences. They see the Police and any who oppose or criticise them as the enemy and have no concept of humanity. Totally self-focused they care nothing for any other persons. They are effectively brain dead.

As for the human rights lawyer, he merely reinforces the stereotype.

[Mudfart]

I think its a good idea to monitor childrens upbringings. Too many kids are treated as a simple way of collecting a benefit, and basically live on the streets while the mothers are busy partying and trying to make more meal tickets for more drugs, alcohol and tobacco.
I used to work on road and civil engineering jobs in some of the scummiest streets in auckland, I've seen how kids are treated, and what the adults in those streets get up to.
Look at the small "shithole" towns, I'm only using an example here.....Huntly. Absolutely DEAD on a monday, you can park outside any shop you want.
Why? Because all the beneficiaries have partied away their money, if not before the weekend, then during it.
Tuesday, weds, thurs, it gets packed. Heaps of people in the liqour shops, the takeaways, bakeries, TAB, etc....
A good one is when you see two young ladies walking home from the paknsave in hamilton carrying two boxes of beer, at 9am on a tuesday. Police should be ordered to question them, do they have kids? where do they live? what are their living conditions etc....?
$50 says they got multiple kids who probably starve most of the week, and go to school with no shoes, but they bring their runny noses and nits!

[Edbear]

Just been listening to some person (offishul like) on the news spouting about how the police have to earn respect. There are some real arseholes out there who will never respond to the "earning" of any type of respect, let alone for the Police. It's so reassuring that we have all these idiots wanking on about this highly emotive issue treating it like some party game. No matter how exemplary the behaviour of our police force might ever be, crims will still be crims and people will still moan about the pigs.

Funny thing is, that myself, I have never had a problem with the Police. Yes, despite my halo of sweet innocence.. I have been pulled over a couple of times, once for speeding, (112km/h and given a ticket for it), and once I was asked to quieten my old BSA B31 down a bit as a neighbour had complained. Okay I loved the sound coming from the gutted Dunstall megaphone and may have used full throttle up my street a few times... But any time I have spoken to, or been spoken to by, the Police I have never had any aggro or problem with the officers. They have always responded with thesame respect I show them, which is the same respect I treat everyone with.

So my question really, is, "Why do some people have "issues" with the Police when interacting with them and others don't?"

Respect? I've seen what the Police have to deal with...

[scumdog]

Serious question Scummy: Would you give a pistol to every member of the police force?
Not "some" but all police. We all know that there is a range of "competencies" of officers and some would not be suitable to be armed with anything more than a radio and flashlight...

Those suitably trained - sorta like the army where not all are armed all the time...

[SixPackBack]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10629722

A Waikato tourist has been thrown into a Brisbane jail - because he called a Queensland policeman "useless" after seeking directions in the city.
Engineer Paul O'Reilly, 24, of Otorohanga, said he had expected Queensland police would be like those in his home town - giving public the same sort of courtesy they themselves rightly expected.
He was desperate to find his way to his brother's Sunshine Coast home after the pair became separated at a music festival on Doomben Racecourse last weekend, he told The Courier-Mail.
With no mobile phone or money to make a payphone call, O'Reilly approached a police sergeant for help. He was told to "go north," and responded with "You're the most useless police in the world."
He was promptly arrested and spent a night in jail before appearing in Brisbane Magistrate's Court charged with being a public nuisance.
The case was adjourned after magistrate John Costello told O'Reilly - who initially tried to plead guilty - he thought his behaviour did not meet the standard required to prove the charge and should get legal advice.

Today O'Reilly returned to court and his lawyer, Kate McArthur, asked the charge be struck out entirely.
Mr Costello indicated that in light of the facts he had no intention of doing anything other than admonish him and impose no other penalty, and O'Reilly pleaded guilty.
Outside court, he said the experience had ruined a much anticipated holiday and lowered his opinion of Australian police.
"In New Zealand we are taught to trust and respect police and seek them out for help when we are in trouble," he said.

Hahahahaha.