New Yellow Flag Rules?

[JayRacer37]

The yellow / red also means ducks at Manfeild.

Cos ducks are a bit like oil - slippery when squished.

[Grumpy]

I think alot of riders need to re-read their MNZ book.
I think Frosty's thread suggesting riders be tested before getting their licenses was a great idea.

Some years ago when I applied for a car competiton license I had to sit a small test and was quizzed on the flags. Then my first meeting at Puke they threw a short oral test at you before documentation. I had been warned this was likely to happen so you could bet I knew them pretty well. Damn good idea.

[pipson]

Cos ducks are a bit like oil - slippery when squished.

Yes then it & the rider would be debris.

[Jabez]

Flags at the Start/Finish line include many more scenarios. For marshal points there are usually 4 used.
Yellow - Held means take care but nothing dire. Waved means more imminent problem, prepare to stop.
Yellow/Red - means fluids or debris on the track.
Blue - usually waved, means slower rider about to be overtaken so s/he should hold their line.
Red - usually waved, means race is stopped, drop off pace, and return to dummy grid.

As far as I am aware, the only flag that is waved is the Yellow for above reason (mainly Marshals/Rider/bike on track), all others are stationary.

[pipson]

As far as I am aware, the only flag that is waved is the Yellow for above reason (mainly Marshals/Rider/bike on track), all others are stationary.

No all can & should be waved at the appropriate times

[Rcktfsh]

Some years ago when I applied for a car competiton license I had to sit a small test and was quizzed on the flags. Then my first meeting at Puke they threw a short oral test at you before documentation. I had been warned this was likely to happen so you could bet I knew them pretty well. Damn good idea.

They test you before getting a car race licence and then often randomly quiz you on flags at sign in, laughed one day when Kenny Smith had to have a couple of goes to pass.

[Skunk]

One thing they have at moto gp (Aus, at least) is what all the flags mean in the programme.
I thought/think that's a great idea as some of the flags aren't used that often (water, oil on track are what spring to mind, as I hadn't seen/noticed them before).
The other one that's not obvious is the black flag with orange circle in it. Not sure if all the flags are used here, as have only seen green, yellow, red here (interesting to see the white flag means the riders are allowed to change machines per GP rules).

We go to the effort of printing all the requirements (flags, start procedure, red flag procedure, who does what, prizegiving - everything) and it amazes me how many don't bother to read it and prefer to wander around asking questions.

[It's a good game to send them to the wrong person, who sends them to the wrong person, etc when the answer is in their programme all along ]

[nigela]

If you want to see how flags should be done properly come to manfeild this weekend.
The best in the business are on the the points
No I'm not biased
And I will happily discus any issues with you on Saturday night

[ellipsis]

This seems to be an apt thread to say thanks to Steve Orpwood and his crew of flaggies who front up to run the track at our CAMS meetings ,rain or burning sun, control what happens on the track, want bugger all in return and do it for their love of it all, and are about as professional in their approach to the task as you could wish for.

It takes so much pressure off the club , not having to continuously hustle round finding people to fill in a flag spot, who probably shouldn't be out there doing the job anyway, but its all done so we all get a days racing in, and I bet this happens at club days all over the country, at a lot of events. We are lucky to have Steve and his crew turn up, cheers.

[MSTRS:Me]

As far as I am aware, the only flag that is waved is the Yellow for above reason (mainly Marshals/Rider/bike on track), all others are stationary.

Depends on the immediacy of the problem being signalled. Have a read through this thread.

[CHOPPA]

I never said i dont know the yellow flag rules i just think you should be able to pass lapped riders under a stationary yellow.

In ozzy they do a test over the phone to get your licence and in Jnr Mx in NZ you have to get tested to get a national mnz licence

[scott411]

and in Jnr Mx in NZ you have to get tested to get a national mnz licence

thats news to me choppa, i have never seen a junior tested, i think everyone should be tested, and with the online liceising now it would be pretty easy to do, i think it really riders should be tested everynow and then,

[FROSTY:Me]

Chopper I couldn't disagree more strongly.NO passing meand NO passing. PERIOD. Allow what you are proposing and the no passing rule might as well be tossed out the window altogether.
If I was running a meeting I wouldn't care who it was that did the passing. Stroudy,Buggy whoever they would be black flagged or disqualified.
I don't believe in rules just for the sake of being the "big man" the rules were developed over a long time in order to make this sport of ours as safe as possible.

[pipson]

Chopper I couldn't disagree more strongly.NO passing meand NO passing. PERIOD. Allow what you are proposing and the no passing rule might as well be tossed out the window altogether.
If I was running a meeting I wouldn't care who it was that did the passing. Stroudy,Buggy whoever they would be black flagged or disqualified.
I don't believe in rules just for the sake of being the "big man" the rules were developed over a long time in order to make this sport of ours as safe as possible.

Well said, no passing means no passing.

[Gremlin]

each club / organiser can have different rules around flags. AMCC, only the yellow is ever waved. Hamptons ride days even has a system where a half rolled red is used to get a specific bike to return to the pits.