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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikemad View Post
    because he shouldnt do it to get admiration...................he should do it cause its the honest and right thing to do
    Well said!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder View Post
    Could be but his resignation has taken the heat of Gerry (the mad miner) Brownlee. If Heatly had not resigned I think there would have been much more media attention to Brownlee as he is a senoir minister.

    Some may think that this would be a smart move if this is what happened but all it does is give Labour some time to realy have a good look at Brownlee when all the fuss over Heatley has gone. Whether they can deliver a killer blow is another matter.



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    I don' usually post links from the Standard for obvious reasons but it seems others share my suspicians on the Heatley resignation.

    The writer does raise some interesting points.

    http://www.thestandard.org.nz/heatle...-for-brownlee/

    I am personaly doubtfull on the articles summation as Key seemed to be surprised by Heatle's resignation. On the other hand there is a strong body of opinion that Key is only the front man for the Nats and that the real power lies elswhere with McCulley and his cohorts.

    If this is the case and I do stress the 'if' then it becomes plausable that Heatley's resignation was to protect any flack descending on Brownlee.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mully View Post
    No. Cos normal people would be immediately sacked if they went nuts with their employer's money.
    Are we not forgetting that MPs, particularly cabinet ministers, have very strong influence throughout government departments and are hence almost above the law?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder View Post
    I don' usually post links from the Standard for obvious reasons but it seems others share my suspicians on the Heatley resignation.

    The writer does raise some interesting points.

    http://www.thestandard.org.nz/heatle...-for-brownlee/

    I am personaly doubtfull on the articles summation as Key seemed to be surprised by Heatle's resignation. On the other hand there is a strong body of opinion that Key is only the front man for the Nats and that the real power lies elswhere with McCulley and his cohorts.

    If this is the case and I do stress the 'if' then it becomes plausable that Heatley's resignation was to protect any flack descending on Brownlee.


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    everyone knows that Bill English is the REAL nats leader. It was made aware to the constituency BEFORE the last election was held, when English was caught on tape saying he was gonna scrap kiwibank. Keys is just the prettyboy frontman.
    Nats are trying to put a human face onto their inhumane acts of selling NZ off, to get reelected next term, by saying to us, hey look at our fiscal budget, look at our treasury, we have money.
    Yeah, sure temporarily, AND it was at the cost of me being owned by some Russian mafia boss who decided he wanted to buy a slice of NZ! BASTARDS! mmmmm I cant wait for the GST raises to kick in. You nat voting retards DO realise this is a FOREVER deal aye?
    Once GST goes up, it will NEVER EVER come down again. Not with any govt party in power.
    "I saw, I came, I conquered".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudfart View Post
    everyone knows that Bill English is the REAL nats leader. It was made aware to the constituency BEFORE the last election was held, when English was caught on tape saying he was gonna scrap kiwibank. Keys is just the prettyboy frontman.
    Nats are trying to put a human face onto their inhumane acts of selling NZ off, to get reelected next term, by saying to us, hey look at our fiscal budget, look at our treasury, we have money.
    Yeah, sure temporarily, AND it was at the cost of me being owned by some Russian mafia boss who decided he wanted to buy a slice of NZ! BASTARDS! mmmmm I cant wait for the GST raises to kick in. You nat voting retards DO realise this is a FOREVER deal aye?
    Once GST goes up, it will NEVER EVER come down again. Not with any govt party in power.
    I tend to think that the English 'leadership' is a bit simplistic. There is no doubt that he has some consideable influence on fiscal policy but the overall stratergy of the party lies elsewhere. Key is in cahoots with Ashcroft due to both having money trading connections. I personly belive that it is Ashcroft who is Key's mentor. How much of this trickles down into Nat policy is a debatable point but I did see what appeared to be some influence in the 'whaling incident' and have commented on this elswhere.

    I'm not too sure that Key will raise GST. I think this is a 'bogy' in much the same way that the original ACC hikes were. They will either raise GST to a point below 15% or not raise them at all and NZ will thiink what a bunch of nice guys they are.

    Ultimatly with Key still running 'high' in the polls I do not think that the Nats will do too much to put that lead in jeopardy.

    Nationals real agenda is the privatization of NZ and to fool NZ to agree with this. I think their overall stratergy is with this in mind and everything else is secondary.

    Their performance to date leaves me no other choice than to come to this conclusion.

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    PAH!!!! who says ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the law... Dirty fucking lying cheating bastards the lot of them... Heatley latest

    http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/...erstand-rules/
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    PAH!!!! who says ignorance is no excuse in the eyes of the law... Dirty fucking lying cheating bastards the lot of them... Heatley latest

    http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/...erstand-rules/
    And this guy is in Paliment making laws. Just when I think they could not get any lower: a new low for Nat MPs.

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