Are you sick of the Total wanker Governments we get in NZ -There is an alternative:

[avgas]

Actually........No. We elect parliamentary representatives to govern the country and obtain the best advice on how to do so. The vast majority of the public have no conception of the detailed information required to do that. IMHO we should know more but the media won't report the detail - to be fair they realise most people aren't interested.

For example, we'd probably all vote against mining in the conservation estate. Yet Gerry Brownlie points out that there are already 80 existing mining operations and I doubt the public could name more than one or two. What have the media done about this? Researched his claim? Broadcast a list of the sites? Nup. Nadda.

The result is the public know nothing about it. How could we possibly make an informed decision? The recent "smacking" referendum is a good example of how badly these things can work. It was a nonsense and should never have proceeded without clear wording. Maybe then it would have achieved something.

This man speaketh the truth.
We elect a leader of the blind you see (or not). Not a leader of the wise.
Unfortunately scenario is the wise are often ignored. And we all know what a person is if they ignore wise advice.

[Dave Lobster]

We elect a leader of the blind you see (or not). Not a leader of the wise.

Wouldn't the way round this little problem be to stop thick people voting?

[Mudfart]

yep, you should have to obtain some form of license to vote, to prove your qualified to make informed decisions.
You need a bloody license for everything else.....oh wait, no you can go out and buy as much alcohol as you want, and tobacco, and quite happily sit there making other people breathe it and get cancer. Fair trade for a punch in the head i reckon.
We shouldn't automatically claim its your right to vote because your 18. You might be a retard. If you smoke, its proof.
If you want to bitch because yes you've been smoking for 25 years and your not a retard blah blah, I challenge you to quit for 2 years, and see my point of view of being around smokers. Its REALLY REALLY offensive and insulting to humanity.

[Hitcher]

Is this an argument for or against?
Lurved our previous feminocracy

It's an argument against. And I think you misunderstand what a "feminocracy" is.

[Mudfart]

I think feminocracy is germain greerism. Notice how she fuks up our country so bad she moves to england.

[Hitcher]

I think feminocracy is germain greerism. Notice how she fuks up our country so bad she moves to england.

Germaine Greer? Are you serious? She was an Aussie, not a Kiwi.

[Fatt Max]

Vote for me, I'll give you a pie, a dozen piss, a big snog and a slap on the arse.......

Or, we start the Biker Party and go fucking mental on an election campaign where we eat pies, drink piss, snog everyone and slap people on the arse......

Sorry, serious thread, been a long day and Kingfisher lager was on special in Countdown......xx

[avgas]

Kingfisher lager

Ah yes - nothing like the Double Brown of Bombay

[Mudfart]

Germaine Greer? Are you serious? She was an Aussie, not a Kiwi.

well i wasnt born when she DID fuk up our country (from what Ive been told), however I also never said she was a NZer, altho I did assume she woulda been.

[oldrider]

This man speaketh the truth.
We elect a leader of the blind you see (or not). Not a leader of the wise.
Unfortunately scenario is the wise are often ignored. And we all know what a person is if they ignore wise advice.

I have never once seen a "leader" elected in this country, that is always done by the party!

On the other hand, I have seen almost every leader over the past 60 odd years, get "elected out"!

When the people get so pissed off with them that they want a change, any change, just to get rid of the incumbents!

Clark and company anyone?

NZ does not elect leaders "in", they only ever elect leaders "out" and we wonder why we are never satisfied with the results!

[mynameis]

Sounds like nothing but a load of crock to me.

[Hitcher]

well i wasnt born when she DID fuk up our country (from what Ive been told), however I also never said she was a NZer, altho I did assume she woulda been.

Germaine Greer hasn't "fucked up" any country. She has never held elected office anywhere.