Sketchy wins first 600 race at Manfeild

**blackdog** · 28th February 2010, 19:43

Originally Posted by slowpoke

WTF? Good onya mate, we really need folks standing on the sidelines with no fuggin' idea what's going on abusing our volounteers. Thanks for that, I'm sure you'll be putting up your hand to fill one of the vacant spots they won't be filling at the next event?

So what would you have done? Ignored the jump starts?

They officials are in a no win situation with whatever they decide. and should be supported with what is a thankless prick of a job. To have people with no idea of what was said at the riders briefing, or the sutuation at the time does nobody any favours.

unfortunately you must have misunderstood my post

i was merely commenting on the situation, not describing any individual or group

that was my next post, which was a totally biased opinion venting frustration in a light hearted manner, based entirely on the observations of those who were able to attend and inform me. these conclusions were arrived at using soley the information that was at hand, and as is usual can change as more details become available

this reliance on a third party was only due to unfortunately being unable to be there in person

i can only assume from your post that you also had frustration to vent, for reasons i won't even begin to try and imagine

i also understand that you are wholly entitled to your opinion, which (without all the relevant information) you didn't realise was exactly what you have accused me of.....

.....because in fact i do have some fuggin' idea what is involved, have volunteered in the past, had volunteered again this weekend, and was only prevented from being there due to injury.

i can assure you that i will again be volunteering when i am required in future

**blackdog** · 28th February 2010, 19:43

pass the peanuts

**CHOPPA** · 28th February 2010, 19:44

A bad crash from Jamie Galway leaving him with apparently broken neck back femur hip and head injurys is what cancelled the second race, thought are with him! The first race start should possibly have been a restart, everyone saw the jump start, not saying who i saw jump first but they put everyone else off and they may have accidently jumped but didnt make any time. Hard situation but there was def a jump start

**rachprice** · 28th February 2010, 19:44

The race was called because of the injured rider still on the track 30 minutes after the race had been red flagged
It looked like the officials were taping the starts???

**Ivan** · 28th February 2010, 19:52

thoughts are with jaimee at the momment and lets hope its not as serious as they say and that its a mistake what some one has said

**spacemonkey** · 28th February 2010, 19:54

Originally Posted by CHOPPA

A bad crash from Jamie Galway leaving him with apparently broken neck back femur hip and head injurys is what cancelled the second race, thought are with him! The first race start should possibly have been a restart, everyone saw the jump start, not saying who i saw jump first but they put everyone else off and they may have accidently jumped but didnt make any time. Hard situation but there was def a jump start

Shitballs

Bad list of injuries, I hope he's not that bad and heals ok.

**blackdog** · 28th February 2010, 19:58

Originally Posted by Ivan

thoughts are with jaimee at the momment and lets hope its not as serious as they say and that its a mistake what some one has said

x1000

anyone with some first hand info?

**roadracingoldfart** · 28th February 2010, 20:04

Actually rule 6-13 covers it and half points can be awarded. or no points.

I retract my first post till i get more facts.

Heal well Jamie , your one fast rider and i dont forget the duels we had a few years ago on the old british beasty.

Paul.

**Pussy** · 28th February 2010, 20:05

Wishing Jamie all the best......

**WarrenW** · 28th February 2010, 20:06

Avalon and myself will wait until tomorrow night and go check up on him in the hospotal then give you an update. No chance that he would be coherent tonight given all the pain re;ief. Medic did state he was a status 3 at the time. Will keep ya posted when we know more.
Cheers
Warren.

**roadracingoldfart** · 28th February 2010, 20:13

6-13 `Stopping and Restarting a Race`
Road Race Events
Should it be necessary to stop a race due to an accident or if climatic or other conditions
make it hazardous to continue, a red flag will be displayed by the steward, or his deputy,
at the finish line. A minimum of 3 (three) more red flags are to be displayed
simultaneously around the circuit, one of which shall be the last flag point before the
finish line. In addition, all flag points not displaying red flags are to wave yellow flags.
Upon sighting the red flag riders are to cease racing immediately and, after passing the
finish line red flag complete 1 (one) further lap at touring pace before returning to the pit
lane, or the safest point on the track at the discretion of the steward (this point to be
announced at riders briefing), grid where they will stop and await further instructions.
The decision to stop a race for whatever the reason can only come from the Steward or in
his/her absence the Clerk of the Course. For climatic reasons the race can only be stopped
once. The conditions under which the race will be restarted are as follows: the number of
laps referred to in A and B is the number of laps effected before the lap in which the race
is stopped.
A. If two laps or less are completed:
a. The original start shall be declared null and void.
All riders taking part in the original start shall be allowed to restart either on the
original machine or on another machine provided it has been approved as fit to
race by the machine examiners. The restarted race shall be for the full race
distance and the original grid positions will be used. The place of any motorcycle
unable to take part in the restart shall be left vacant.
b. If it is not possible to restart the race, no points will be awarded towards the
championships.
c. In all cases where a restart takes place, this will be 30 minutes at the latest after
the initial race has been stopped.
B. If three or more laps but less than two thirds of the race distance have taken place.
a. The race shall be considered to be more than one part. The race positions at the
end of the lap preceding the stopping of the race. In all cases where a restart takes
place, this will be 30 minutes at the latest after the previous part has stopped.
b. The distance of the restarted race will be that required make up the initial full race
distance.
c. The grid for the restart will be in the order of the machines at the end of the
preceding part.
d. Only those riders who have accomplished at least 65% of the laps realised by the
first rider of the preceding part will be authorised to restart. Machines may be
repaired or replaced.
e. Half points will be awarded to each part. If it is impossible to restart the race, half
points only will be awarded towards the championship.
C. If two thirds of the race distance is completed:
a. This shall be declared a full race. The finishing order shall be at the end of the lap
preceding the stopping of the race.
b. Full championship points will be awarded.
ALL OTHER EVENTS
Once a race has been started it may not be stopped unless the Steward of the meeting
considers it dangerous to continue. The Steward of the meeting shall stop the race by
exhibiting the red flag. The Steward of the meeting shall be the only official authorised to
display on his/her own responsibility a red flag during the course of the race. The Steward
may, however, delegate the authority to use the Red and Black Flags to a competent
official. On a circuit where there is radio communication at the various signaling points,
the Red Flag may be used where such a point is in full radio or telephone communication
with the Steward of the meeting or his/her appointed delegate.
Should a re-run take place, only those competitors who started in the original start will be
allowed to compete. Any rider that has retired from or is excluded from a race which is
ordered to be re-run shall be ineligible to take part in the re-run.
Should race conditions deteriorate through a cause other than an accident and it is unsafe
for the race to continue for the full number of laps or time and it is unlikely that a re-run
would be practicable, the finish flag will be shown to all competitors.
If the race leader at the time of stopping has completed more than fifty per cent (50%) of
the total number of laps or time, the race shall be declared finished
and the places as at the last completed lap prior to the stopping of the race will be declared
as the final result.

**Ivan** · 28th February 2010, 20:16

so he is definatly at palmy? and not flown to Christchurch like people were saying in the pits, I always wait till more official word comes out rather than the pit lane chinese whisper

**Marknz** · 28th February 2010, 20:26

So many guys appeared to jump the start in Race 1 that it could well have been re-started. But Like Choppa says, it started with 1 and then a whole lot of others followed. What are you supposed to do as an official in those circumstances?

Heard so many different stories about Jamie over the remainder of the afternoon... I didn't see the incident, was it a highside? I just hope the kid is doing okay and heals well. And best wishes to his family in their time of need.