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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    The Ninja 250R should be 180 degree ignition, and the Hyosung 250 and 650 vtwins should be 270 degrees. There are two coils, one for each spark plug.

    I am looking at turbo projects with carburated engines, so a MAP pressure sensor would be very good.

    Steve
    sorry if took a long time to reply, :-d
    im at my office rite now and trying to steal my working time to keep posted. :-p

    Yes, 2 coils, and for Ninja 250R, we supplied all from the cdi, 2coils, and 2 sparkplugs.

    Hmmm, nice project. I wish you could share it with me. :-)
    thanks

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    No worries.

    Well it is quite simple. Add turbo, remap spark to retard with increasing boost, fix carbs to run on boost. Done.

    At the moment I have to move the ignition pickup to set the timing -4 degrees static and hope for the best. I dont want to run full ECU on this project. Your system looks nice and simple, just it needs to work with this flywheel, 270 degree odd fire, and handle manifold pressure.

    Steve
    "I am a licenced motorcycle instructor, I agree with dangerousbastard, no point in repeating what he said."
    "read what Steve says. He's right."
    "What Steve said pretty much summed it up."
    "I did axactly as you said and it worked...!!"
    "Wow, Great advise there DB."
    WTB: Hyosung bikes or going or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    No worries.

    Well it is quite simple. Add turbo, remap spark to retard with increasing boost, fix carbs to run on boost. Done.

    At the moment I have to move the ignition pickup to set the timing -4 degrees static and hope for the best. I dont want to run full ECU on this project. Your system looks nice and simple, just it needs to work with this flywheel, 270 degree odd fire, and handle manifold pressure.

    Steve
    Thanks for sharing, appreciated.
    :-d

    unfortunately we dun have much option to do some R&D on other bikes, what we have is some common local mass produced here :-)

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    Thanks for telling us about your product. Send me a message if I can help with Hyosung vtwin ignition info.

    Steve
    "I am a licenced motorcycle instructor, I agree with dangerousbastard, no point in repeating what he said."
    "read what Steve says. He's right."
    "What Steve said pretty much summed it up."
    "I did axactly as you said and it worked...!!"
    "Wow, Great advise there DB."
    WTB: Hyosung bikes or going or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    No worries.

    Well it is quite simple. Add turbo, remap spark to retard with increasing boost, fix carbs to run on boost. Done.

    At the moment I have to move the ignition pickup to set the timing -4 degrees static and hope for the best. I dont want to run full ECU on this project. Your system looks nice and simple, just it needs to work with this flywheel, 270 degree odd fire, and handle manifold pressure.

    Steve
    Sounds like Ktech's ignition system may have a problem handling odd firing engines. You could use two ignitions or set up a wasted spark system that fires every 90 deg.
    You could also look at a microsquirt efi controller. The microsquirt was designed so that it could be used on all the oddball v angle bikes around, 72 deg, 50 deg etc. Just use the ignition side of it. Inputs for pretty much anything to do anything.
    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by TripleZee Dyno View Post
    Sounds like Ktech's ignition system may have a problem handling odd firing engines. You could use two ignitions or set up a wasted spark system that fires every 90 deg.
    Thats a good idea. Alas, no MAP sensor yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by TripleZee Dyno View Post
    You could also look at a microsquirt efi controller. The microsquirt was designed so that it could be used on all the oddball v angle bikes around, 72 deg, 50 deg etc. Just use the ignition side of it. Inputs for pretty much anything to do anything.
    Yeah aren't they great! They don't like my pickup-pattern though, so I'd have to hack a 36/1 wheel or similar onto it.

    Steve
    "I am a licenced motorcycle instructor, I agree with dangerousbastard, no point in repeating what he said."
    "read what Steve says. He's right."
    "What Steve said pretty much summed it up."
    "I did axactly as you said and it worked...!!"
    "Wow, Great advise there DB."
    WTB: Hyosung bikes or going or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k-tech View Post
    Thanks for sharing, appreciated.
    :-d

    unfortunately we dun have much option to do some R&D on other bikes, what we have is some common local mass produced here :-)














    wrong quote :-p
    Last edited by k-tech; 5th March 2010 at 14:49. Reason: wrong quote

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    Thanks for telling us about your product. Send me a message if I can help with Hyosung vtwin ignition info.

    Steve
    yes of course, soon we have some bikes to R&D, we'll inform you shortly. Thanks for your welcoming gestures, bro. :-)

    we are searching most similar bike with your in here recently. I'll keep you posted for sure later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TripleZee Dyno View Post
    Sounds like Ktech's ignition system may have a problem handling odd firing engines. You could use two ignitions or set up a wasted spark system that fires every 90 deg.
    You could also look at a microsquirt efi controller. The microsquirt was designed so that it could be used on all the oddball v angle bikes around, 72 deg, 50 deg etc. Just use the ignition side of it. Inputs for pretty much anything to do anything.
    cheers
    Thanks for sharing, appreciated.
    :-d

    unfortunately we dun have much option to do some R&D on other bikes, what we have is some common local mass produced here :-)
    in here, 250cc above, its hard to find, due to regulation here, 250cc above has high customs & taxes special treatment by our government.

    what we have is all "hand made" and doing some R&D by ourself with limited budget, limited bikes info, etc.
    We concentrated on Suzuki FXR since its my own bike :-) and freely to do some R&D on it.

    This kind of info such as hyosung tech spec might our usefull info though, and we do need it alot :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    That is fine. Do not worry. You have a good idea, and that is what forums are for.

    Do you have an ignition for the odd-fire vtwin Hyosung 250's ?

    http://translate.google.com/translat...%26Itemid%3D29


    Steve
    is it this bike ?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyosung_GT250

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    Quote Originally Posted by k-tech View Post
    Yes, that is it.

    More info to follow.

    Steve
    "I am a licenced motorcycle instructor, I agree with dangerousbastard, no point in repeating what he said."
    "read what Steve says. He's right."
    "What Steve said pretty much summed it up."
    "I did axactly as you said and it worked...!!"
    "Wow, Great advise there DB."
    WTB: Hyosung bikes or going or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by k-tech View Post
    aloha bro....
    sorry i didnt mean to "disturb" this forum.
    You didnt disturb anything people were just asking questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by k-tech View Post
    since we do have suzuki fxr here and kinda hard to find a fxr community.
    http://www.fxr150.co.nz/discussion/

    For the record Qkkid was in my bed, not the other way round

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    Pumba is a wise man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pumba View Post
    You didnt disturb anything people were just asking questions.



    http://www.fxr150.co.nz/discussion/
    thanks bro
    much appreciated
    :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DangerousBastard View Post
    Yes, that is it.

    More info to follow.

    Steve
    Yez, thanks. :-)
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    Hi K-Tech.

    Have you done any development on two-stroke singles

    I know that a lot of the F4&F5 racers (referred to as Bucket racers) are always on the look out for bits like this.

    When you say the units are programmable, is the entire map editable? or just program the unit to use a different pre-loaded map?

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