Oil types?

**Drogen Omen** · 15th March 2010, 20:28

Quasievil:

Hello, Mr Mobil here (Im the BDM for Mobil Taupo to Auckland for Mobil) Im not an engineer but have access to them and I have been extensively trained by Mobil etc.

The official word is this, for bikes use bike oil (not car oil) for cars use Car oil not bike oil and so on............easy eh !
Mobil certainly wont endorse any car oil in bike scenario, because some engineer some where decided it was ok.

For your bike Magicmonkey I would have thought (from our range) a Mobil Extra 4T 10w-40 a semi synthetic.

Hi Quasievil, what would you reccomend for a 2007 Buell XB12SS? i got the bike second hand and the guy didnt have the manual.

some one told me that Castrol Magnatec is really good in bikes...

i have no idea... i usualy just take my bike in to get serviced but cant afford it this time... so gona give it an oil change my self...

can any one sugest a good oil and filter combo...? can i just buy them from Repco or Super Cheap?

**AllanB** · 15th March 2010, 20:31

Plenty of boys running 15/50 in their Hornets over on the 919 USA site. Heaps use the Shell full synthetic (called Rotella there) and they appear to love their Amsol oils. Mind you they also stick in anything that is on special at Wallmark!
I personally stick with the weight Honda says.

Triumph exclusively recommend Mobil full synthetic motorcycle oil in their bikes. Must be good shit. Should be for the price .......

I'm off Castrol after years of use in various bikes. I am wondering just how much synthetic is actually in their semi-synthetic, is it like 'fruit juice' and only needs to be 5%.

**Quasievil** · 15th March 2010, 20:44

Originally Posted by Drogen Omen

Hi Quasievil, what would you reccomend for a 2007 Buell XB12SS? i got the bike second hand and the guy didnt have the manual.

some one told me that Castrol Magnatec is really good in bikes...

i have no idea... i usualy just take my bike in to get serviced but cant afford it this time... so gona give it an oil change my self...

can any one sugest a good oil and filter combo...? can i just buy them from Repco or Super Cheap?

Hi From a Mobil view point Mobil 1 V twin 20W-50, but in the first instance consult your dealer manual however this should be within the recommendation.

Fully synthetic. Meets API SJ/CF & JASO MA

**Quasievil** · 15th March 2010, 20:48

Originally Posted by AllanB

Triumph exclusively recommend Mobil full synthetic motorcycle oil in their bikes. Must be good shit. Should be for the price .......

Really, its not very expensive when rated against other brands, my KTM strongly recommends a Motorex oil (who am I to argue) so I buy it at around $150 isssh

I can get Mobil 1 racing 4T for half that (without staff discount)

**Corse1** · 16th March 2010, 07:01

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

Erk, I wouldn't be doing that. I think that will pinch something. Will you tell us if it does, or will you keep it quiet? I don't think thick oils like that should be used in bike engines.

Steve

Don't believe a word of what you have said Steve. From my Triumph manual " Triumph high performance fuel injected engines are designed to use 10W/40 or 15W/50 semi or fully synthetic motorcycle engine oil"

And from my Ducati manual it does say 10W/40 but also you you can use any oils in the table if you run in the temperatures for that oil. The only difference in temperature range between the two is that 15W/50 goes down to -12 degrees C and 15W/50 only goes down to -8 degrees. The only reason I wouldn't use 15W/50 is if I rode in temperatures colder than -8 degrees C.

The last 10000 kilometers of running in the Ducati has been Motul and shell both 15W/50. Bike runs sweet. Maybe if i was running a rocket racer that rev'd to 15000 rpm I would co9sider the 10W/40.

The receipts for oil changes from the dealer for the Triumph have 15W/50 as the oil used.

**AllanB** · 16th March 2010, 14:11

Originally Posted by Quasievil

Really, its not very expensive when rated against other brands, my KTM strongly recommends a Motorex oil (who am I to argue) so I buy it at around $150 isssh

I can get Mobil 1 racing 4T for half that (without staff discount)

$99 for 4l of that fancy pants full synth Mobil motorcycle oil in CHCH .......

Which is actually OK for a full as most others I've looked at were around $120!

**Coldrider** · 16th March 2010, 14:16

I got a 4ltr pack of motul 3100 gold 4T worth $50, may be only good for the lawnmower at that price ?

**CookMySock** · 16th March 2010, 14:17

Originally Posted by Corse1

Don't believe a word of what you have said Steve.

Well, thats the magic of the Internet innit! You can read everyones varied opinions and simply wander off and do as you choose.

Aint it grand!

Originally Posted by Corse1

Maybe if i was running a rocket racer that rev'd to 15000 rpm I would co9sider the 10W/40.

I think if you read back, you will see reference to high-revving motorcycle engines.

Steve

**Corse1** · 16th March 2010, 14:25

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

Well, thats the magic of the Internet innit! You can read everyones varied opinions and simply wander off and do as you choose.

Aint it grand!

Steve

Really I am just trying to get the number of posts up so I am no longer an "L" plate rider

Ive been a member for long enough

Oil is a dangerous topic at the best of times......and I do respect everyones opinion

**Quasievil** · 16th March 2010, 14:59

Originally Posted by AllanB

$99 for 4l of that fancy pants full synth Mobil motorcycle oil in CHCH .......

Which is actually OK for a full as most others I've looked at were around $120!

Could be cheaper if you know the right people eh lol

**Chooky** · 16th March 2010, 19:23

O I love oil threads.... Some motorbike sites ban any discussion on oils...

But anyway, while I've got you all here....... Can anyone tell me what the difference is between outboard gear oil and ordinary gear oil... apart from the price that is..

**Drogen Omen** · 24th March 2010, 19:30

found this site today...

http://www.datateck.com.au/lube/cast...ategoryId=3000

choose Motorcycles from the dropdown menu and then select your bike brand and model.

for Oil Additives i found this site
http://www.powerupusa.net/index.htm
there is a NZ site for powerup but it is down at the mo...
http://www.powerupnz.co.nz

has anyone heard of Powerup oil additives???

Powerup has no relation to Motorup... Motorup aint that good for cars so not good for bikes, Motorup got taken to court for misleading consumers. Google it...

**Quasievil** · 24th March 2010, 19:38

Originally Posted by Drogen Omen

found this site today...

http://www.datateck.com.au/lube/cast...ategoryId=3000

choose Motorcycles from the dropdown menu and then select your bike brand and model.

for Oil Additives i found this site
http://www.powerupusa.net/index.htm
there is a NZ site for powerup but it is down at the mo...
http://www.powerupnz.co.nz

has anyone heard of Powerup oil additives???

Powerup has no relation to Motorup... Motorup aint that good for cars so not good for bikes, Motorup got taken to court for misleading consumers. Google it...

Dont go putting any oil modification products into a oil........ever !!

**CookMySock** · 24th March 2010, 19:40

Originally Posted by Chooky

O I love oil threads.... Some motorbike sites ban any discussion on oils...

Hardly surprising.

Originally Posted by Chooky

But anyway, while I've got you all here....... Can anyone tell me what the difference is between outboard gear oil and ordinary gear oil... apart from the price that is..

Outboard leg oils are designed to handle water intrusion without going bad.

Steve