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  1. #46
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    How about before the ride starts everyone just rights down the emergency contact number + their mobile number + real name on three columns of a "ride attendence form". And maybe some other columns for each stop that they made it to. So that as people arrived at a rest stop they could tick off that they made it.

    In the event of a crash we can get their real name from their license and cross check it with the ride attendence form.

    This has three major advantages.

    1) It tells you how many people attended the ride. No more guessing.
    2) It's dirt cheap. Piece of paper (maybe specially printed, but it's not going to cost more than 50c per ride) + a pen.
    3) Often people bring along their mates to a ride who aren't KB members. This system deals with all people the same.

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    People should use the "User note" facility. Mine contains all of the information I am prepared to post online.
    "Standing on your mother's corpse you told me that you'd wait forever." [Bryan Adams: Summer of 69]

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    Yeah yeah Frosty, I'm not pissing on your fire, just trying to think how it would be of any real benefit.
    It did occur to me later on that a little list could be quite good.

    I see your scenarios, (or senarios as you want to call it... P/T), and counter with...
    If you and I went for a ride tomorrow.. or rode home together from the last track day, and one of us binned it..
    I have your number, and you mine, but to get Pillions I need to get on the net, (some phones can, but mine can't), or to have arranged something with you earlier.

    Which leads me to the conclusion for those who can be bothered, they need to:
    1: Do some homework and look up the user notes of your riding buddies before you go riding, and take them with you.
    This saves you having to think "shit shit!!! was that 'curious george' or 'ned flanders' that just shot off the road?"

    What I'm trying to tell you is that's this list is a good idea, but not just for crashes, for anything requiring somebodys contact details.
    And yes, real names help too. heehee.
    *updates something on user note thingies*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher
    People should use the "User note" facility. Mine contains all of the information I am prepared to post online.
    I agree. I don't like putting my contact details on a public forum. No matter how cool the forum people are.

    But I think the card idea rocks
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    I vote for sAslex's plasticard type card.......

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    And lo! It came to pass that KB descended into bureaucratic nightmare.

    If I'm in a group of riders, people at home have a general idea of where I'm going and what time to expect check-in phone calls. A couple of people I generally ride with know the folks at home.

    If I'm alone, people at home have a general idea of where I'm going and what time to expect check-in phone calls.

    I'll update people at home if I change plans.

    I have my license in my wallet. Emergency services can get all the necessaries from that, or from the rego on the bike. I know that system works, because they've had to use it for me before.

    I have public domain information in my user notes that anyone with a bit of common sense or access to the right online databases can easily get.

    KB is a great social network. I would hate to see it turn into a club, with the politics, and the compulsory fees (plastic cards cost money), and the mission statements, and the broader political activism, but above all, I'd hate to see an OSH culture descend and turn KB rides into "Not Fun" for the people organising a weekend or weekday jaunt through KB.

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    Why is it jim that you seem only to be able to see things in the negative???
    The idea was raised in order to HELP people not to make life difficult.
    Club this can never be -we're spread too far and wide .
    But a group of people who care about one another we already are.
    If you personally want no part in this idea thats up to you but don't shoot it down before options are tossed around and the best idea found.
    Ie lets not toss the baby out with the bathwater
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    Quote Originally Posted by FROSTY
    Why is it jim that you seem only to be able to see things in the negative???
    The idea was raised in order to HELP people not to make life difficult.
    Club this can never be -we're spread too far and wide .
    But a group of people who care about one another we already are.
    If you personally want no part in this idea thats up to you but don't shoot it down before options are tossed around and the best idea found.
    Ie lets not toss the baby out with the bathwater
    It's not negative. We should all take responsibility for providing that information to whomever we see fit. We have a truck load more mechanisms available to share that information than 20 years ago, and most people use those systems in one way or another. I don't think NC's using KB to get contact details for Sam's nearest and dearest was in any way a failure of any sort. It was just another communication medium. Emergency services have all the necessary contact details as soon as they sight rego or license anyway.

    I've organised a couple of rides through here and the turn out to the rides far outstrips anything I used to manage through Club facilities in the past. The KB rides are equal parts terror and fun. Terror because the ride groups mutate in size and form constantly and fun because of the diversity of people along. I count heads and interrogate people during the ride to make sure I understand why the group size has changed and I ride at the very back on KB rides I organise.

    I know where you are all coming from, but I prefer the semi-organised mayhem of KB to an organised club with secretary, treasurer, committee, and work. If you start making contact details compulsory you need an infrastructure to support it.

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    I never read anywhere in this thread where it was compulsory. You're right about a few things Jim2 but sometimes it takes the system a while to get hold of family of someone who went down in a bad way. I know for a fact that if I went down hard my family would rather hear it from someone who I ride with rather than a police officer a few days later. No offence to the men and women on the force but sometimes they can be a bit blunt. This may be somethine that is just my family but I'm sure most families will be glad to know that someone was there to help out when needed.

    I don't see a need for fee's and such to go into this and the card would only be marginally usefull in my opinion but havng an emergency list of people to contact so that families can know what is going on is a good idea. Even if it is just writing it down on a card and carrying it in your pocket. Just keep it somewhere easily accessable. Ride orginizers wont have to collect them just if someone goes down and is unconcous search them for the card after calling emergency services. If the person is awake just ask them for it or they can call themselfs.

    Carrying a cell phone is a good idea but not everyone can afford them and sometimes they do mannage to fall out of pockets in a wreck and are fairly hard to find in tall grass. Anyway I think I've coverd all I wanted to say, I know some of my veiws have changed lately but I've been doing alot of thinking. See y'all on the road.
    Last edited by Waylander; 16th May 2005 at 09:22. Reason: My spelling is horrible.

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    if its too complex it won't get used. We all have to carry our licenses, a similar sized peice of card with your contact details on it can be tucked in the same place. i'm not too keen on having my contact details available to all and sundry, my phone number is unlisted after having a lot of trouble with a wacko stalking my partner, however if it was just one otr two respected members that would be fine
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    When I organised a ride last week, I got riders to send me their contact number, name, next of kin name and next of kin number. I then forwarded that on to a moderator for safekeeping.

    Most people sent their details via PM without trouble. Just my 2 cents

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    Waylander, the Police don't contact your family "a few days later". They do it while you are in the ambulance, or being loaded in to it. They will also tell them where they are taking you. If the Police don't do it, the Ambos will, as they did in my case. It is not a good idea for friends or riding buddies to contact families directly IMO.

    There is an element of compulsion sneaking into the discussion, and I for one don;t want to see OSH mentality descend on KB ever.

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    Not in my experiance they are not. May be different here but with the effeciantcy I've been hearing of them lately that's not likely. When I wrecked the 250 and broke my arm the ambos and stuff were there almost emidiatly but I was at the hospital and done with x-rays and everything and no word to my family until I called them after being released 5 hours later. I was no more than a 5 minute walk from my house I was awake and alert and tried to get someone to call my family but no one would listen. I'm sorry but I tend to not trust the police and such with contacting my family in an emergency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    and I for one don;t want to see OSH mentality descend on KB ever.
    Got my vote there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    I for one don't want to see OSH mentality descend on KB ever.
    Seconded! Hope the motion is carried...

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