Kiwibiker Name/number register.

**riffer** · 19th May 2005, 12:39

Paul - you wear a Medic Alert bracelet don't you?

Mine quite clearly states "Diabetic - on insulin"

**madboy** · 19th May 2005, 14:08

My God, how such a simple idea can be hung drawn and quartered by the masses... Frosty mate, what can I say??!! I feel for ya.

I take personal responsibility. And one day I'll take enough personal responsibility to put the important details (name, address, next of kin, allergies, blood group, etc) onto a card and let it live in my wallet and/or jacket.

If KB develops a confidential list, I'll also subscribe to that.

If KB develops cards, I'll put my hand up for those.

If the ride organiser wants some details, they can have those.

Go with the flow... it's all about FUN. Don't sweat the small stuff.

**James Deuce** · 19th May 2005, 14:09

Originally Posted by madboy

Go with the flow... it's all about FUN. Don't sweat the small stuff.

The poor bastard who has to organise everything isn't sweating small stuff, believe me.

**Hitcher** · 19th May 2005, 14:14

Originally Posted by riffer

Paul - you wear a Medic Alert bracelet don't you?

Mine quite clearly states "Diabetic - on insulin"

Mine says "Dickhead - on motorcycle"

**Waylander** · 19th May 2005, 14:54

I'm gonna go with the dog tag idea as soon as I find a place that makes them.

**Jeremy** · 19th May 2005, 15:09

A quick search on google for "dog tag" will give you a couple of places that do them in a variety of styles and numbers of lines of information.

**FROSTY:Me** · 19th May 2005, 15:23

Originally Posted by Jim2

The poor bastard who has to organise everything isn't sweating small stuff, believe me.

Ya aint talking about me are ya??

**El Dopa** · 20th May 2005, 21:23

Originally Posted by Hitcher

More useful would be your coffee preference, so that the first rider to arrive at the destination cafe could place orders for those following...

Only if they pay up front.

**James Deuce** · 20th May 2005, 21:35

Originally Posted by FROSTY

Ya aint talking about me are ya??

Empathising with you mate.

**Phurrball** · 21st May 2005, 23:04

Pwoah...

What a thread! I'm reading through it being reminded of the rationale for our adversarial legal system...only when there are advocates for each point of view does the truth come out...in theory...

(Please! Leave the can of worms alone! - any mud-slinging/ worm feeding WRT the legal system, lawyers, judges or the civil law inquisitorial system V the adversarial system in PMs to me, or new thread!)

There are a heap of good ideas here, and plenty of equally important criticisms to throw them into stark relief. Perhaps we can find clarity, perhaps the way forward is a little less certain, what is important is that we are thinking about it - many heads are better than one.

While we are a disparate group, we are united by our abiding passion for a wide variety of two (and sometimes more) wheeled thingees. The wealth of knowledge, and strength of spirit in this community is impressive. (Yeah, I know!

But y'know it's true!!

)

After a good sift through this thread, a few common themes seem to be emerging:

Simple = good.
Access to info in emergency (while protecting privacy) = good.
Over-complicating the delicate, ad-hoc structure of KB = bad.

My $0.02.

The card does seem a good idea. It could be optional for those that object philosophically/aren't interested, but strikes me as a useful tool in providing a real world identity outside the online KB 'Matrix', and form of ID that is the 'icing' to the D/Lic cake and could be used in other ways.

Sign up list at start of rides rides - simple and effective - but not perfect.

Contact details in online database - seems a good adjunct. If D/Lic / KB card don't provide enough of a picture, any reasonable person could make the leap to cyberspace to ID the comatose mystery biker / make contact with their nearest and dearest (Worst case scenario here:

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Dog tags and helmet stickers - way cool for those that want them! (Me, me!

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Coffee preference: Should be mandatory! Perhaps this does not go far enough - maybe 'break glass in case of bad coffee' resuscitation device is needed on all KB rides...

Hope I've noot exceeded my n00b mandate here...

Keep the ideas coming...

**Skunk** · 21st May 2005, 23:49

Originally Posted by Phurrball

Hope I've noot exceeded my n00b mandate here...

There isn't one.

Good stuff.

Originally Posted by FROSTY

Here's the senarios I thought should be covered
1) group ride say down 22 -One rider doesn't get to the end - he's got lost
Group leader can call and make sure hes ok
2) ID for KB discounts at shops.
3) senario 1 turns out to be an emergency breakdown senario or a bike stopping crash.
4) riders hurt -allergys? also whats his real name?
5) riders badly hurt -who does he want contacted??
Keep in mind in the case of senario 5 it most likely will be the ambos or police

The card idea: I like it but I can't see myself going though the pockets of some guy/girl I've just met to contact someone I don't know to tell them something I'm unsure about. *shug*
As for the blood group/online handle etc, good idea.

Online database for certain members to get the info from: I have no problem with the idea, but who's going to decide what state I should be in before contacting my wife or brother? Can we do this in a special user note for the 'Inner Circle' so we can add more or less detail as we see fit?

The sign-on list at the start of a ride seems to be the best to me. Up to the rider at the time if they sign-on or not and they can put down what they like if anything.

At the end of the day if it's an injury accident the Police will be involved. It's their job to contact the right people.

I remember someone mentioned another use for this info but I can't remember what it was. I'll come back to it later.

**Posh Tourer :P** · 22nd May 2005, 00:02

We oughtnt be trying to contact next of kin in serious accidents, I dont think that was ever the point of the idea.

If the person is that bad that they cant tell us who they want to be at the scene, we have no business contacting anyone.

If they are ok enough to ask for someone, no problem there. Is this whole thread moot? Why did we want to have a preferred contact person written down anyway? Frosty?

Edit: ok I see you have modified the first post. ID/discount cards? Great idea. As for any preferred contacts, I stand by what I said above.

**FROSTY:Me** · 22nd May 2005, 14:11

Im reallly not sure where to go with this one. -I really think the basic idea is good. The ID card thing non compulsury has apeal to me

**SpankMe** · 22nd May 2005, 14:59

I have added the Private Fields to the vCard download. The Private Fields will only show for KB Inner Circle members. This will enable you to easily add members to your address book on your PC.

The individual members will of course need to enable the vCard download option.

**Skunk** · 22nd May 2005, 17:50

Originally Posted by SpankMe

I have added the Private Fields to the vCard download. The Private Fields will only show for KB Inner Circle members. This will enable you to easily add members to your address book on your PC.

The individual members will of course need to enable the vCard download option.

Can you make so we can allow only Inner Circle members to get the vCard download?