14th May '05 - SH22 ** PICS AND VIDEOS

**Motoracer** · 16th May 2005, 16:09

Originally Posted by mikey

im pretty sure its 70 on a learners mate

TS was refering to this post of mine http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...&postcount=206 which was an advise to everyone who were interested to come on the ride, before we actually went on the ride.

**White trash** · 16th May 2005, 16:50

Fuck, that's an entertaining ten pages of dribble.

What's hysterical, out of all that's been posted, is Buggy actually thought he was keeping up........

**Motoracer** · 16th May 2005, 16:59

Originally Posted by White trash

What's hysterical, out of all that's been posted, is Buggy actually thought he was keeping up........

What's this about, then?...

**dss3** · 16th May 2005, 17:00

Originally Posted by White trash

Fuck, that's an entertaining ten pages of dribble.

What's hysterical, out of all that's been posted, is Buggy actually thought he was keeping up........

And almost as funny is that I got a mention as a "big boy" with the trashman

Wahooo

... pity it cost me a camshaft trying to keep up while im sure you were holding back!

**White trash** · 16th May 2005, 17:01

....deep down everyone's really concerned for everybody elses safety. That's great.

We are all friends here, we just have completely different ideas about how to go about things. That's great too. Stops us getting bored.

There's no need to point fingers or place blame, nothing's anybody elses fault other than the squid at the controls. Recent events obviously have evryone a little tense and that's understandable. Let's not get personal though. Pretty simple, if you don't like the way someone rides, don't ride with them. You get a fairly good idea from the verbal daioreha being spouted on here as to how people act.

Hitcher doesn't attend The Real Thursday Night Rides and I don't attend The Other Thursday Night Rides as we each know it's not our bag. Don't see each of us on here defending our riding or bagging the other do you?

We're all different (especially that pommy homo Jimbo) but we're all motorcyclists, let's enjoy each others company.

**White trash** · 16th May 2005, 17:02

Originally Posted by Motoracer

What's this about, then?...

You're not even reading the whole thread?!

Daryl got it sonny, try to keep up.

(ps. You may need to go back a page or three)

**Paul in NZ** · 16th May 2005, 17:03

Originally Posted by White trash

Fuck, that's an entertaining ten pages of dribble.

I thought my stuff was particularly inspiring dribble but I can accept entertaining...

**wkid_one** · 17th May 2005, 18:18

Originally Posted by Jim2

Back to riding by myself or with a couple of mates maximum I reckon.

How about people just riding with personal accountability - rather than finding an excuse to blame other people.

Christ, it is someones pregotive to ride quick - if people feel impassioned to keep up - maybe they shouldn't be riding.

Quite frankly, if someone does die trying to keep up - it is there own fault for not looking at for themselves.

**James Deuce** · 17th May 2005, 18:47

Originally Posted by wkid_one

How about people just riding with personal accountability - rather than finding an excuse to blame other people.

Christ, it is someones pregotive to ride quick - if people feel impassioned to keep up - maybe they shouldn't be riding.

Quite frankly, if someone does die trying to keep up - it is there own fault for not looking at for themselves.

Nah, it'll never work. it's ALWAYS someone else's fault. Kevin Ash's latest column in Two Wheels is bound to make people tell him, "you can go and fuck off." It's what I got when I tried to sell the same idea. I'll just go for little rides with people who've got the personal responsibility thing sussed. Saves having to waste oxygen.

**wkid_one** · 17th May 2005, 18:49

Originally Posted by Jim2

Nah, it'll never work. it's ALWAYS someone else's fault. Kevin Ash's latest column in Two Wheels is bound to make people tell him, "you can go and fuck off." It's what I got when I tried to sell the same idea. I'll just go for little rides with people who've got the personal responsibility thing sussed. Saves having to waste oxygen.

I agree entirely - god forbid I put my left glove on before my right, and someone copies me and has an accident and blames me for displaying incorrect glove adorning procedures.

**Marknz** · 17th May 2005, 18:53

Originally Posted by Motoracer

Yep, I've met you and you are a pretty cool dude from what I gathered but here's my say as well (not specificly directed at you Mark):

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Hey, this is a forum... you've had your say and I've had mine, that's what it's all about. I'm sure we'll catch up at Manfield and I hope you have a good day on the track.

**Coldkiwi** · 17th May 2005, 19:42

Originally Posted by Jim2

I'll just go for little rides with people who've got the personal responsibility thing sussed. Saves having to waste oxygen.

there's a lot of merit in that. Doesn't matter what speed they're planning to do, so long as they are acting responsible for their own safety and those in front and behind them.

one VERY important thing I think this ride has highlighted is the fact that SH22 is a real disaster zone for inexperienced riders (even on their own but a group just exacerbates the problems). Can any one count how many young riders have come off on SH22 rides in the last year? To those that think its a good place to learn to corner, I think you couldn't be more wrong given its changeable surfaces (especially at this time of year) and numerous tightening blind corners.
I think MR was right (and very decent) to offer the more inexperienced riders the option of passing on the 2nd stage of the ride but its up to each rider to stay within their limits and know when its time to call it quits.

**Coldkiwi** · 17th May 2005, 19:48

Originally Posted by dss3

And almost as funny is that I got a mention as a "big boy" with the trashman

Wahooo

... pity it cost me a camshaft trying to keep up while im sure you were holding back!

no no, i've seen this behaviour from trashy before. He looks like he's watching his mirrors to make sure he doesn't loose you, but he's really posing at himself and looking for pimples to pop as he rides

He would ride faster if he'd just watch where he's going though

**Coldkiwi** · 17th May 2005, 19:55

Originally Posted by Coldkiwi

one VERY important thing I think this ride has highlighted is the fact that SH22 is a real disaster zone for inexperienced riders

I should also add that SH22 is very demanding of attention and skills for experienced riders. Personally, i've given up on it because i can't be bothered worrying about the state of the next corner that much when I can head north, east or south and find more friendly roads. I know some people here absolutely love it (because its a challenge?) but I don't think anyone should kid themselves that its an easy road to ride well.

**justsomeguy** · 17th May 2005, 20:06

Heyyy!!!!

As President of the Scenic Drive fan club I resent the amount of attention being bestowed on SH22.

On a more serious note:

As a newbie I find nothing wrong with SH22. I remember riding down it with just a months or 4 Sundays experience. As long as you ride within your limits and make sure you can stop in the visible attendance ahead there is nothing wrong with 22. A corner is a corner is a corner. I have to agree with MR on this.