Broadband

[Dadpole]

You fortunate sods. My only option is satellite at $130 per month for 1GB. Phone is extra. Needless to say, I use dialup.

[Urano]

Current flat has a wireless link to mates house 400m away ($400 worth of wireless equipment), phone through a voip adapter, think we pay half of thier internet bill, which is $25 for 10gig.

uh... is it possible there to share the same line?
i mean, i have the adsl, build up a wifi net and 2/3 families share the line...
here's forbidden....

You fortunate sods. My only option is satellite at $130 per month for 1GB. Phone is extra. Needless to say, I use dialup.

not even 3g?


so, you don't have possibility to subscribe a "time" contract? 30 h per month, 100 h per month... stuff like that...

[hayd3n]

Yea but everyone I've spoken to about them say that they are shit, and in my experience with them I'm inclined to agree.

dont mock it till ya tried it

[jono035]

uh... is it possible there to share the same line?
i mean, i have the adsl, build up a wifi net and 2/3 families share the line...
here's forbidden....

Yep, completely possible.

That is one of the advantages of being billed by the gigabyte, it allows the ISPs to actually charge based on costs to them, so they don't care about whether you have 1 computer or 30 on the connection generally. You pay more money, you get more data.

Also, for the record, with ISPs you definitely get what you pay for. All ISPs oversell their bandwidth, so for every 100 customers (who could in theory use 20mbit each for a total of 2gbit) the might only have 10mbit total bandwidth, using the assumption that not everyone will be using it at the same time and allowing them to keep costs down and profits up. Generally, if you pay more, you at least have the possibility of getting an ISP that has more bandwidth per customer meaning at peak times you will get faster speeds, even though they're all technically ADSL2. I was on vodafone a while back and this was their problem, really crap speeds even when you're on their 'fast' connections. Same with Slingshot from memory, don't know anyone technically competent currently on Xnet to ask.

[CookMySock]

uh... is it possible there to share the same line? i mean, i have the adsl, build up a wifi net and 2/3 families share the line...

Yes, you can do that here. You can even re-sell it if you want.

Steve

[Urano]

Yep, completely possible.
That is one of the advantages of being billed by the gigabyte, it allows the ISPs to actually charge based on costs to them, so they don't care about whether you have 1 computer or 30 on the connection generally. You pay more money, you get more data.

this is a great possibility... here is not because of high average intelligence of local politicians...
so the problem is, HEAR YOU ALL: "terrorism"!
yep!
here they've brewed a very savvy law, in regard of which you are responsible of all the data transfer on your net, and if your net is accessible to anybody else than you then you should have all the information about him (name, surname, dob, fiscal code...)
so you have the option of do your own business and pay for your line, or break the law and open your wifi network sharing it with your neighbor, but you have to hope that he will not chat with Osama or decide to make a funny joke and print on your network printer detailed bomb instructions, or you'll be persecuted as responsible...
this is obviously a great problem with bars and clubs which wants to put a wifi net for their customers.... in fact nobody does...

everybody knows it was a rule asked from isps, 'cause we have contracts with no data or time limits, so you could be "always on" with the only restriction of a bandwitdh (mine is 4 Mbps, 24/7)...

[jono035]

this is a great possibility... here is not because of high average intelligence of local politicians...
so the problem is, HEAR YOU ALL: "terrorism"!
yep!
here they've brewed a very savvy law, in regard of which you are responsible of all the data transfer on your net, and if your net is accessible to anybody else than you then you should have all the information about him (name, surname, dob, fiscal code...)
so you have the option of do your own business and pay for your line, or break the law and open your wifi network sharing it with your neighbor, but you have to hope that he will not chat with Osama or decide to make a funny joke and print on your network printer detailed bomb instructions, or you'll be persecuted as responsible...
this is obviously a great problem with bars and clubs which wants to put a wifi net for their customers.... in fact nobody does...

everybody knows it was a rule asked from isps, 'cause we have contracts with no data or time limits, so you could be "always on" with the only restriction of a bandwitdh (mine is 4 Mbps, 24/7)...

I agree that this is a problem, however it is more like a toll road vs an open road and taxing everyone equally, the argument in that respect has nothing to do with who or what is actually using it.

There is already precedent in NZ for people not being responsible for what others do on their internet connection and that the ISPs are not responsible for policing it.

[Spuds1234]

dont mock it till ya tried it

I had tried them and they were shit compared to Orcon.

[Ronin]

dont mock it till ya tried it

I deal with ISP's on a daily basis. I may just strangle my next customer who says they use slingshot. They are by far and away the single worst support desk I have ever dealt with.

3 weeks of countless calls
2 Modems
Change of filters
1 Brain Hemorrhage

To get them to admit that there "May" be a problem with the clients line.

[scracha]

I deal with ISP's on a daily basis. I may just strangle my next customer who says they use slingshot. They are by far and away the single worst support desk I have ever dealt with.

3 weeks of countless calls
2 Modems
Change of filters
1 Brain Hemorrhage

To get them to admit that there "May" be a problem with the clients line.

Moi tool...they're truly shit. Still....if you're semi technically competent and a light user then you can't really beat $25 per month. Telstra somehow manage to be both shit and expensive. This sort of bollocks occasionally happens with Xtra too though. Got one poor sod been charged twice for Chorus to come out and basically not do their job properly.

You fortunate sods. My only option is satellite at $130 per month for 1GB. Phone is extra. Needless to say, I use dialup

Tried XT mobile or a vodem? Also check out Kordia wireless (no8wireless.co.nz are bloody good), orcon.co.nz (service ain't as good as it used to be), etc). Failing that, then Satellite is indeed your only option unless some other company is providing wifi or wimax in your area. Dunno where you're getting $130 though as you'll pay about $70, Farmside's service has went down the shitter IMHO but I've heard good stuff from my customers using Wirelessnation.co.nz, just don't go over your usage allowance! Satellite has huge latency though.